G4dude wants to scab thread.

[Diesel]

So who is this guy. I think it's time we knew his name.

I'm not going to out him. First of all it's against the TOS. Second using anonymity might be helping him learn about how a union works.

 

[gutshotdraw]

some people just aren't too bright.....even gulfstream pilots.

I resemble that remark....

 

[G4dude]

I resemble that remark....

I REALLY resemble it!

 

[G4dude]

I'm not going to out him. First of all it's against the TOS. Second using anonymity might be helping him learn about how a union works.

This is a very good point, Diesel. Thanks.

 

[gunfyter]

I'm trying to help you. I also believe in the market. If it were free. It's not. The game is rigged against our side.

 

[G4dude]

I'm trying to help you. I also believe in the market. If it were free. It's not. The game is rigged against our side.

I think now with the pilot shortage, the game is gonna be rigged for our side.

 

[Diesel]

I think now with the pilot shortage, the game is gonna be rigged for our side.

Ok kit Darby.

 

[Praetorian]

I'm not going to out him. First of all it's against the TOS. Second using anonymity might be helping him learn about how a union works.

You could just PM it to me, I'll spread it around. I think how a union should work is if you get on a message board and profess your willingness to scab (hurt your fellow pilots by weakening your reps position at the table) you get outed.

Do you have the courage of your convictions? You guys are in a fist fight. Do you have what it will take to win? Or is it ????

 

[G4dude]

You could just PM it to me, I'll spread it around. I think how a union should work is if you get on a message board and profess your willingness to scab (hurt your fellow pilots by weakening your reps position at the table) you get outed.

Do you have the courage of your convictions? You guys are in a fist fight. Do you have what it will take to win? Or is it ????

I think I met you once in a little FBO in the Midwest! You were loudly declaiming about wonderful unionism to all and sundry. It embarassed everyone there. Yeah, THAT was you! Just kidding. You are just another dreary union thug.

 

[Praetorian]

I think I met you once in a little FBO in the Midwest! You were loudly declaiming about wonderful unionism to all and sundry. It embarassed everyone there. Yeah, THAT was you! Just kidding. You are just another dreary union thug.

Yup you're right. I am a Teamster thug. We don't f??k around with scabs.

We've never met in the Midwest or anywhere else. I would remember your scab stink if we had.

I'm not kidding.

 

[G4dude]

Yup you're right. I am a Teamster thug. We don't f??k around with scabs.

We've never met in the Midwest or anywhere else. I would remember your scab stink if we had.

I'm not kidding.

You must be so proud.

 

[CA1900]

I'm trying to help you. I also believe in the market. If it were free. It's not. The game is rigged against our side.

Exactly. The Railway labor act is HEAVILY slanted against employees. We have very few tools in our toolbox, making it critically important that we use them to their fullest.

I think now with the pilot shortage, the game is gonna be rigged for our side.

There IS no pilot shortage, nor will there be for the foreseeable future. Kit Darby made a fortune peddling that lie for decades. It still hasn't happened.

 

[OPECJet]

There IS no pilot shortage, nor will there be for the foreseeable future. Kit Darby made a fortune peddling that lie for decades. It still hasn't happened.

There is a shortage of pilots willing to work for what regionals are paying, in addition to the coming shortage from having few aspiring pilots in the pipeline.

NJA may very well find itself in the same position as regionals are in now. It's not only about the money, but also about QOL and job security, both of which are in question with the current EMT.

There are at least two possible failure scenarios I see. The first is that Harry Handjob obliterates more relationships with remaining vendors and makes it impossible for NJA to do business. We can't have our own FBO at every airport in the country, and when Signature, Landmark, Atlantic, etc has had enough of his shenanigans, we'll find ourselves without the ability to do business.

Second, pilot staffing. We all saw the article about NJA having 1000 applications on file and the interview / quote from the pilot who hasn't worked there since 2009. Compare that to the draw of any of the Boeing or Airbus operators. At some point the quality of newhire coming in will drop. This will inevitably lead to a lower quality experience for our owners, and at some point may very well contribute to an accident when we've had to lower our minimums to attract the quality pilot our company requires.

G4, your fear of the union is unfounded. The EMT has set forth a course that will put NJA out of business. Our negotiations are more complicated than any in recent aviation history because we are tasked not only with preserving the profession, but also preserving the company. This is close to Eastern Airlines Part II, except instead of a labor hating intelligent business man at the helm, we have a labor hating attorney at the helm who isn't qualified to run a 7/11.

 

[jonjuan]

Exactly. The Railway labor act is HEAVILY slanted against employees. We have very few tools in our toolbox, making it critically important that we use them to their fullest.




There IS no pilot shortage, nor will there be for the foreseeable future. Kit Darby made a fortune peddling that lie for decades. It still hasn't happened.

Well then, you must know something the FAA and the major airlines don't know.

http://news.erau.edu/top-news/airli...her-at-embry-riddle-to-discuss-pilot-shortage

 

[G4dude]

Are we hoping we can force changes to the EMT during the contract negotiations, or is that a separate issue for another time?