G0JETS Blows

[Captain Overs]

I guess I was censored trying to say GGOOOJJEETTSS. What's up with that? Who's running this site anyway, the Bush Administration?

 

[Black Water Dog]

I was just about to ask the question....."I thought a scab was someone who crosses the picket line?"......I get confused everytime someone says "scab" and noone is on strike

The alter ego undercuts the negotiating power of the TSA pilots WORSE than a few scabs could, so the label is actually rather kind.

Some of the Hulas lackeys and sympathizers have claimed that the Ho Jet pilots and Teamsters are going to negotiate a wonderful contract. (From Hulas?! I have a better chance of finding the winning PowerBall ticket laying on the floor of the STL B concourse today.)

HOWEVER, the published deal that the Ho Jet pilots took was a pitifully weak offer with worse flight rules than the TSA flight attendants currently have. They deserve every bit of scorn heaped upon them.

 

[KingKong2]

HOWEVER, the published deal that the Ho Jet pilots took was a pitifully weak offer with worse flight rules than the TSA flight attendants currently have.

What are you talking about? What is the point of makeing stuff up? If it is not made up show me that what u are saying is true. I just don't buy it.

I know pilots live on rumors and falsehoods!

 

[Heavy Set]

If not the word scab, how about "union circumventor"? Does that work for you Francis? Who cares about semantics - people get my point...

These GO---Jet guys have ruined their careers and are a direct cause of deteriorating compensation in the industry. Hope they like the CR7 - it will be the last airplane they fly in the airline biz...

 

[hbrow15]

Hope they like the CR7 - it will be the last airplane they fly in the airline biz...

doubtfull, ALPA is very forgiving, look at all the CAL scabs that they not only forgave but actually allowed them to hold union leadership roles.

 

[Spinplate]

Lol LOL

 

[theo]

If not the word scab, how about "union circumventor"? Does that work for you Francis? Who cares about semantics - people get my point...

These GO---Jet guys have ruined their careers and are a direct cause of deteriorating compensation in the industry. Hope they like the CR7 - it will be the last airplane they fly in the airline biz...

Why is it the last airplane they will fly? I see no evidence anywhere that you know what you are talking about. Just read these boards. Everyone hates everyone else. Management hires the employees not a bunch bitter pilots who go on these boards to trash one airline or another. I realize you are simply trying to do your part in making it harder for Go--Jet to hire pilots but you really are stretching the truth with this comment.

 

[PCL_128]

Management hires the employees not a bunch bitter pilots who go on these boards to trash one airline or another.

All of the majors use pilots also to do the hiring. HR and management doesn't do the hiring by themselves at any airline that I'm aware of. There's a reason that SCABs (with the exception of the CAL SCABs that didn't have to search for work after the strike) are working at crappy little companies in Africa and Asia. If you've got a copy of the SCAB list, take a look at all the comments. Very few of them have made it to major airlines. Most of them work at bottom-feeders or have left aviation completely. The Freedumb and BloJets pilots will be no different.

 

[KingKong2]

All of the majors use pilots also to do the hiring. HR and management doesn't do the hiring by themselves at any airline that I'm aware of. There's a reason that SCABs (with the exception of the CAL SCABs that didn't have to search for work after the strike) are working at crappy little companies in Africa and Asia. If you've got a copy of the SCAB list, take a look at all the comments. Very few of them have made it to major airlines. Most of them work at bottom-feeders or have left aviation completely. The Freedumb and BloJets pilots will be no different.

Wow…I guess you are right. I should listen to your since you are a very very well seasoned and weathered airline pilot, with your 2000 hours of flight time and your COMM CFII surly you know hands down how this industry works. We a should listen to you buddy, because you obviously sit at the right hand of GOD Himself.



This is the unfortunate truth of the world of flying….





Why would this ruin careers? It did NOT for CAL, Eastern, Freedom, or the many, many other carriers out there, that WERE ACTUALLY SCABS? We don't even know what a SCAB is today!

THIS IS NOT EVEN SCABed WORK. ALL PILOTS ARE WHORES. Plus...If they don't do it someone will!!!! Most the people talking bad about these pilots are most likely JELOUS. Upset that someone else is successful.

DAL, CAL ,UAL, AA, NWA, all have sold out to management.... They all could have stood up together and raised their middle finger to management and said increase the ticket price and move foward (cargo carries had no problem)!

But NO, we have pissed away all we have worked for....Like I said..... All pilots are WHORES!!! and WE THINK EVERYTHING IS OWED TO US and EVERYTHING IS OURS!!!

 

[FreedomAList]

The Freedumb and BloJets pilots will be no different.

Wow. You really sound like you know what you're talking about.

(Sadly, you're wrong -- numerous guys at JetBlue, 2 that I know at Southwest -- maybe because WE DIDN'T SCAB? -- no strike?)

I jumpseat a minimum of twice a week. I've been bumped ONCE in the past 2 years. I had to go into therapy because they made me cry . . .

 

[MD80DRVR]

It's pretty funny to go over to the training center and see these guys (G0Jet Pilots) walking around with their heads held high. They actually act rather arrogant....

 

[PCL_128]

It's pretty funny to go over to the training center and see these guys (G0Jet Pilots) walking around with their heads held high. They actually act rather arrogant....

That's because they've been listening to the lies from guys like KingKong2 and FreedumbAList. "Don't worry about stabbing your fellow pilots in the back. You'll work at BloJets for a few years and then go right to work at Jet Blue or Southwest! Care for some more KoolAid?"

 

[FreedomAList]

Relax PCL . . you'll get your chance to stab them right back when they get re-integrated into your list (or stapled) when it all comes back together -- as it most likely will (it just makes too much $$$ sense).

Just don't be too disappointed when other airlines don't give a frak about a hundred or so non-scabbing regional airline guys.

Small fish, big ocean, ya know? Life's too short. You mean to tell me that you carry the Eastern and CAL ACTUAL scab lists . . . and check it EVERY TIME A JUMPSEATER COMES ON BOARD? Ugh.

Whatever turns you on, I guess.

 

[jbDC9]

So this has probably been asked before, but what's up with hiding the name of the airline? Do the moderators have a hard on to defend them or something? Just curious...

 

[PCL_128]

You mean to tell me that you carry the Eastern and CAL ACTUAL scab lists

Indeed I do. I also carry the Freedumb list and now the BloJets list. I'm not the only one either. I know lots of guys that carry the Freedumb list.

 

[flyinglow]

Indeed I do. I also carry the Freedumb list and now the BloJets list. I'm not the only one either. I know lots of guys that carry the Freedumb list.

I am not defending scabs, I just don't see how a guy who PFT's his way into the right seat of a PNCL CRJ can be so critical.

 

[100-1/2]

I know a guy who can't get the time of day from any reputable 135 outfits much less heavier iron fliers in the US. Called on Friday and rolled off a turnip truck on Monday and right through a picket line some time back. I have seen that list of scabs and he is indeed listed.

I think it is mostly true what has been portrayed with Pilots hiring pilots in most majors and regionals. However, as the generations pass and more young kool-aid mustached '"thank you, sir, may I have another'" management apeasers rise to these ranks, we will see the weight of these scab lists deteriorate to insignifigance. It is both sad and alarming as another poster correctly assess the ability of management to circumvent rules and obligations through alter ego's.

Has anyone considerred alternatives to disrupting the ego's operations? -Long, slow roll-outs in front of these guys on Final forcing a GA
-Rediculous slow taxi in front of these guys
-develop a problem in fron of their gate delaying Push or Shut down.
-or delay in front of their gates to block push back or

I once paid a ramper $50 bucks to NOT service the lav of a Friends a/c flying fora competitor. Long flight in and out, middle of summer. I bet those pax thought twice about flying that carrier again.

100-1/2

 

[inthewind]

Has anyone considerred alternatives to disrupting the ego's operations? -Long, slow roll-outs in front of these guys on Final forcing a GA
-Rediculous slow taxi in front of these guys
-develop a problem in fron of their gate delaying Push or Shut down.
-or delay in front of their gates to block push back or

I once paid a ramper $50 bucks to NOT service the lav of a Friends a/c flying fora competitor. Long flight in and out, middle of summer. I bet those pax thought twice about flying that carrier again.

100-1/2

Mr 100-1/2,
You obviously have never read ALPA's Airline Pilot's Code of Ethics. While the actions that you are advocating might give you or any of the rest of us a brief feeling of satisfaction they are also highly unprofessional. Our first priority is to safety and our second is to the passengers. They should not have to suffer because of some squabble between pilot groups. Let's all act like the professional pilots that we signed up to be.




Live to Ride, Ride to Live

 

[fuelflow]

I am not defending scabs, I just don't see how a guy who PFT's his way into the right seat of a PNCL CRJ can be so critical.

There isn't a single PFT pilot on GJ's list. They are mostly furloughed mainline pilots that are very professional with excellent credentials.

A low time PFT Pinnacle pilot casting judgement. What an idiot.

 

[vclean]

Indeed I do. I also carry the Freedumb list and now the BloJets list. I'm not the only one either. I know lots of guys that carry the Freedumb list.

It's super you carry these lists, since you're not in the position to grant or deny a jumpseat.

Apparently it's ok for you to PFT, but those who take the first job offered when they're out of work and their unemployment is barely paying the bills, are scum.

People in glass houses....