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JumpersAway

Cruise Bores Me.......
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Picking up on some interesting information regarding developments after the 1st of the year. Last year, SH publicly stated the possibility of USAirways flying for us to be announced at the first quarter of 2012. Heard this personally in recurrent in the fall of last year. With SkyWest pushing hard for flying in PHX, I think we're fixing to head up an operation in CLT. From what I'm hearing Mesa has an AD coming due on their CRJ9's that they can't afford to comply with.

A friend of mine interviewed for the ERJ side of things, and was given two options. Start training in Jan with legacy XJet, or wait until the spring for a CRJ class date.

Something else that's funny- apparently we're buying up CRJ 700 sim time like it's going out of style. GoJet is having a very difficult time finding pilots for their operation, and an even more difficult time training them up to do the flying. JA is sticking a dagger in GoJet and isn't happy with the underbid. GoJet has approached DAL in order to stagger and delay the aircraft swap over. DAL approached SkyWest INC. to see if we'd fly the airplanes until they were transferred one at a time, and spread out over metered period. XJet declined, and told them (DAL) it was either an all or none proposition. The aircraft swap/transfer is now in jeopardy for GoJet. Frankly, I hope Hulas chokes.......

Quite a bit of info floating around. I'm doubting the possibilities of a furlough, and I think we're about to spool up for upgrades and more hiring. We may finally be seeing some movement, not unlike our brothers/sisters on the legacy XJet side of things. Let's hope!

Oh, and a gate agent said we're taking over the Pinnacle ground handling contract in MEM next quarter.
 
Picking up on some interesting information regarding developments after the 1st of the year. Last year, SH publicly stated the possibility of USAirways flying for us to be announced at the first quarter of 2012. Heard this personally in recurrent in the fall of last year. With SkyWest pushing hard for flying in PHX, I think we're fixing to head up an operation in CLT. From what I'm hearing Mesa has an AD coming due on their CRJ9's that they can't afford to comply with.

A friend of mine interviewed for the ERJ side of things, and was given two options. Start training in Jan with legacy XJet, or wait until the spring for a CRJ class date.

Something else that's funny- apparently we're buying up CRJ 700 sim time like it's going out of style. GoJet is having a very difficult time finding pilots for their operation, and an even more difficult time training them up to do the flying. JA is sticking a dagger in GoJet and isn't happy with the underbid. GoJet has approached DAL in order to stagger and delay the aircraft swap over. DAL approached SkyWest INC. to see if we'd fly the airplanes until they were transferred one at a time, and spread out over metered period. XJet declined, and told them (DAL) it was either an all or none proposition. The aircraft swap/transfer is now in jeopardy for GoJet. Frankly, I hope Hulas chokes.......

Quite a bit of info floating around. I'm doubting the possibilities of a furlough, and I think we're about to spool up for upgrades and more hiring. We may finally be seeing some movement, not unlike our brothers/sisters on the legacy XJet side of things. Let's hope!

Oh, and a gate agent said we're taking over the Pinnacle ground handling contract in MEM next quarter.

Pretty spot on from what I've been hearing. Thanx Jumpers.
 
Everything in aviation is 50/50. Anything is possible, but It's not done till It's done.
 
Everything in aviation is 50/50. Anything is possible, but It's not done till It's done.

Agreed, WMS. As the old saying goes- "Believe none of what you hear, and only half of what you see". We're due some good news, so lets hope a tad of what was mentioned comes true.

The majors went through the gauntlet 10 years ago, and now it is our turn at the regional level. The strongest will survive, maybe. Let's just hope we're the hunters, rather than the hunted.
 
Picking up on some interesting information regarding developments after the 1st of the year. Last year, SH publicly stated the possibility of USAirways flying for us to be announced at the first quarter of 2012. Heard this personally in recurrent in the fall of last year. With SkyWest pushing hard for flying in PHX, I think we're fixing to head up an operation in CLT. From what I'm hearing Mesa has an AD coming due on their CRJ9's that they can't afford to comply with.

A friend of mine interviewed for the ERJ side of things, and was given two options. Start training in Jan with legacy XJet, or wait until the spring for a CRJ class date.

Something else that's funny- apparently we're buying up CRJ 700 sim time like it's going out of style. GoJet is having a very difficult time finding pilots for their operation, and an even more difficult time training them up to do the flying. JA is sticking a dagger in GoJet and isn't happy with the underbid. GoJet has approached DAL in order to stagger and delay the aircraft swap over. DAL approached SkyWest INC. to see if we'd fly the airplanes until they were transferred one at a time, and spread out over metered period. XJet declined, and told them (DAL) it was either an all or none proposition. The aircraft swap/transfer is now in jeopardy for GoJet. Frankly, I hope Hulas chokes.......

Quite a bit of info floating around. I'm doubting the possibilities of a furlough, and I think we're about to spool up for upgrades and more hiring. We may finally be seeing some movement, not unlike our brothers/sisters on the legacy XJet side of things. Let's hope!

Oh, and a gate agent said we're taking over the Pinnacle ground handling contract in MEM next quarter.

I've also heard him personally say we are furloughing up to 60 in the next few months... Hmm... What to believe? Oh yah, nothing! They have no f'ing clue what they are doing or what's going on.
 
Thanks for the rumors JumperAway. Hope they come true. We do need some upgrades and new hires on ye olde ASA side.
 
Picking up on some interesting information regarding developments after the 1st of the year. Last year, SH publicly stated the possibility of USAirways flying for us to be announced at the first quarter of 2012. Heard this personally in recurrent in the fall of last year. With SkyWest pushing hard for flying in PHX, I think we're fixing to head up an operation in CLT. From what I'm hearing Mesa has an AD coming due on their CRJ9's that they can't afford to comply with.

A friend of mine interviewed for the ERJ side of things, and was given two options. Start training in Jan with legacy XJet, or wait until the spring for a CRJ class date.

Something else that's funny- apparently we're buying up CRJ 700 sim time like it's going out of style. GoJet is having a very difficult time finding pilots for their operation, and an even more difficult time training them up to do the flying. JA is sticking a dagger in GoJet and isn't happy with the underbid. GoJet has approached DAL in order to stagger and delay the aircraft swap over. DAL approached SkyWest INC. to see if we'd fly the airplanes until they were transferred one at a time, and spread out over metered period. XJet declined, and told them (DAL) it was either an all or none proposition. The aircraft swap/transfer is now in jeopardy for GoJet. Frankly, I hope Hulas chokes.......

Quite a bit of info floating around. I'm doubting the possibilities of a furlough, and I think we're about to spool up for upgrades and more hiring. We may finally be seeing some movement, not unlike our brothers/sisters on the legacy XJet side of things. Let's hope!

Oh, and a gate agent said we're taking over the Pinnacle ground handling contract in MEM next quarter.

I've been hearing the same, and it seems very plausible....IF it does come true this way, it will prove yet again that JA is a very shrewd business man and we are better off working with him than against him....
 
You guys will believe anything that you want. I highly doubt GoJet can't get enough applicants. They probably could staff the airline with ASA FOs that have applied.
 
You guys will believe anything that you want. I highly doubt GoJet can't get enough applicants. They probably could staff the airline with ASA FOs that have applied.

Doesn't matter how many applicants you have if you can't get simulator time.....
 
I started getting a feeling something was up as soon as Brad released that cryptic update last week. Every week it was we need to get our costs in line and all of a sudden a cheery message came out calling the merger a success and the company is now in a strong position to pick up new flying and he'll keep us updated.
 
ASA's MO is to book all the available CRJ sim time in the Western Hemisphere thus blocking GoJets from training their crews......INGENIOUS!
 
ASA's MO is to book all the available CRJ sim time in the Western Hemisphere thus blocking GoJets from training their crews......INGENIOUS!

And a waste of money if they don't have a need for the sim time. I doubt they'd throw money away just to screw with G7 over a relatively small short term contract. During the SKYW earnings call they said the contract for those CR7s was undesireable, so they rebid at a higher rate. They sounded almost glad to be rid of it, preferring longer term contracts. Would SKYW/XJET really play these games to retain an unprofitable contract? I seriously doubt it.

On the other hand, if new flying or SKYW training justified the sim time I'm sure screwing GoJet would be a happy side benefit. Hopefully there is substance to the rumors being spread here today, but I'm not getting my hopes up without confirmation.
 
I heard the GoJets rumor too. The reason for them having staffing issues is because a large amount of their pilots are furloughed United and United is planning on recalling them next year. GoJets sucks!
 
And a waste of money if they don't have a need for the sim time. I doubt they'd throw money away just to screw with G7 over a relatively small short term contract. During the SKYW earnings call they said the contract for those CR7s was undesireable, so they rebid at a higher rate. They sounded almost glad to be rid of it, preferring longer term contracts. Would SKYW/XJET really play these games to retain an unprofitable contract? I seriously doubt it.

On the other hand, if new flying or SKYW training justified the sim time I'm sure screwing GoJet would be a happy side benefit. Hopefully there is substance to the rumors being spread here today, but I'm not getting my hopes up without confirmation.

I have heard crazier things come from Joe but I'm pretty sure baronman is being sarcastic.
 
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Or they need the sim time to "dual qual" there pilots in the 2/7/9...


Dual qual is something that is going to have to be voted on, I don't think this gets gifted to the company in a simple MOU, it's going to have to be negotiated in the next contract. Good luck getting that done in the next month or two so that we could start training up the 200 crews.
 

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