Future Prospects Ahead for Legacy ASA

[silver02ex]

If Skywest/Expressjet is buying sim time to screw GJ that will make my year!!!

And i would pitch in for sim time, just to see them burn, and I don't even work for ASA, SW, or XJET.

 

[Flybywire44]

Dual qual is something that is going to have to be voted on, I don't think this gets gifted to the company in a simple MOU, it's going to have to be negotiated in the next contract. Good luck getting that done in the next month or two so that we could start training up the 200 crews.

If you want it voted on then you need to tell your LEC and MEC officers that yourself.

 

[Data]

If you want it voted on then you need to tell your LEC and MEC officers that yourself.

I was responding to a post regarding the company magically getting dual qual. I have no desire to give them dual qual, more work equals more pay.

 

[Clutch]

I was responding to a post regarding the company magically getting dual qual. I have no desire to give them dual qual, more work equals more pay.

More work?? Hahaha.. Right.

 

[Data]

More work?? Hahaha.. Right.

Limitations, procedures, OM updates, etc. I didn't say it was hard work, I simply said more work. When I have to be responsible for more knowledge and apply that knowledge in a checkride, it's more work. Not a lot, but it's more. Easy enough for you?

 

[Clutch]

Limitations, procedures, OM updates, etc. I didn't say it was hard work, I simply said more work. When I have to be responsible for more knowledge and apply that knowledge in a checkride, it's more work. Not a lot, but it's more. Easy enough for you?

OM revisions? What a stretch... Deflate your ego a notch there, screech.. If any airplane is more work, it'd be the other way around.

 

[777forever]

I'm willing to do more work as long as it includes more pay. That's the American dream after all, work harder, get paid more. In addition to common category flying, add in 150% pay for over 90hrs block

 

[ASApuppy]

Make it 125% for over 85hrs and stretch out longevity pay increases to 30 years. Oh and a B fund. Everyone wins. We get more money for being productive. Company saves money with common use reserves. And our mainline partners gain huge flexibility that will support base stability. The bonus to dual qual is that it removes one more hurdle to One List with Skywest. After seeing these nonstop shuffles, that should be in everyones mind.

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[Data]

OM revisions? What a stretch... Deflate your ego a notch there, screech.. If any airplane is more work, it'd be the other way around.

I don't care how little of a stretch it is, if I have to carry a thicker OM and know another 17 limitations including weights, gear speeds or wiper speeds, it's more work. More work equals more pay, at least in my world it does. And if I have to be responsible for more knowledge in a checkride, I expect to get paid for it.

Want me to fly them? Pay me for it. It's really that simple.

 

[Clutch]

I don't care how little of a stretch it is, if I have to carry a thicker OM and know another 17 limitations including weights, gear speeds or wiper speeds, it's more work. More work equals more pay, at least in my world it does. And if I have to be responsible for more knowledge in a checkride, I expect to get paid for it.

Want me to fly them? Pay me for it. It's really that simple.

Gee, Buzz Aldrin,those OM revisions and extra rote memorization limitations must be sooo exhausting..


You're talking about once a year "work"... As opposed to 6,7,8 legs a day where each one is worth .9 hours of credit. I totally disagree.

 

[Data]

You're talking about once a year "work"... As opposed to 6,7,8 legs a day where each one is worth .9 hours of credit. Those OM revisions must be exhausting..

I've never quantified the amount of work, you did. I've simply said it's more work, therefore more responsibility, so, I expect more pay. As for the 6,7,8 leg days, if it's too much work for you, bid over to the 700 and you won't have that problem.

 

[Clutch]

I've never quantified the amount of work, you did. I've simply said it's more work, therefore more responsibility, so, I expect more pay. As for the 6,7,8 leg days, if it's too much work for you, bid over to the 700 and you won't have that problem.

You're "OM revision" and "extra" limitations qualifier for "more work" is laughable.

 

[Data]

You're "OM revision" and "extra" limitations qualifier for "more work" is laughable.

Then let's add the ERJs, they've got 50 seats, right? They've got 2 engines, the same stuff the CRJs have, where do you draw the line? That's only once a year knowledge, right? Why not add every aircraft out there? After all, it's just one more OM and another set of limitations? Who's the idiot here? While you're at it, let the unions know that you've decided pilots should fly every aircarft in the fleet, regardless of seats and historical precedent. Thanks ace!

 

[Clutch]

Then let's add the ERJs, they've got 50 seats, right? They've got 2 engines, the same stuff the CRJs have, where do you draw the line? That's only once a year knowledge, right? Why not add every aircraft out there? After all, it's just one more OM and another set of limitations? Who's the idiot here? While you're at it, let the unions know that you've decided pilots should fly every aircarft in the fleet, regardless of seats and historical precedent. Thanks ace!

You're such a nerd Data.

No one is saying anything about the ERJ. I'm simply trying to get your delusional ass back down to reality. The 700 has better stage lengths, free meals, better overnights and better credit...All for an extra 3 or 4 grand a year. That's great! But to make the argument that you have it harder because you have to put a couple pieces of paper into your little book while at cruise is cosmically absurd. At least try to convince me you deserve more pay because you carry more passengers. I might believe that one.

 

[Data]

You're such a nerd Data.

No one is saying anything about the ERJ. I'm simply trying to get your delusional ass back down to reality. The 700 has better stage lengths, free meals, better overnights and better credit...All for an extra 3 or 4 grand a year. That's great! But to make the argument that you have it harder because you have to put a couple pieces of paper into your little book while at cruise is cosmically absurd. At least try to convince me you deserve more pay because you carry more passengers. I might believe that one.

Delusional? This is comical. I never said I have it harder (you, by the way, have whined about that). You aren't listening. What I have said over and over is that if the company wants me to be responsible for flying the 50, the 700 and the 900 then I should be paid a higher wage.

Question, could you go down to Flight Safety right now and go thru EQP on the 700, right now, today? With your ticket on the line, including the oral and pathetic written test (limitations and emergency procedures)? Perhaps you could, but again, with your ticket on the line? Would I go do that on the 50? No way, not with my ticket on the line. Could I do it? Most likely yes. But to be responsible for the knowledge, however minor it might be, is what we're, or at least I'm, discussing. Our whole livelyhood is based on being able to get thru a checkride to continue to do what we do day in and day out, even though it's once a year. There's a difference between being cool, like you, and being able to fly any airplane I get in, and practical like me, to be legally liable for the operation in day to day flying with half to three-quarters of a billion dollars for each flight in insurance. That's the responsiblity and 'work' I'm talking about.

We're on the same team, but to give away our pay based on seats because you don't think it's more work is really what's delusional. Carry on.