Future Prospects Ahead for Legacy ASA

[Speedtape]

Of course SW pilots don't desire a merger. Like previously pointed out. Non union companies reap all of the benefits from their ALPA counterparts.
It is what it is. You need to get over that and move on. Why do you even care what they get?

And of course JA wouldn't want a merger either.
And until he does,if ever, it WILL NOT HAPPEN! He has the ideal situation with at least 2 Companies within Inc competing for flying. Maintaining them separately, helps control the costs of both (If we are smart.)

What manager would want scope protection, yet it does exist. The point is that if we wanted, and we should want, a merger is possible.
I want a million dollars. Gaining it is more likely to happen than any "want" we have for a merger. You should apply for JA's job, maybe then you could change it. But, then, if you had his insight, you probably wouldn't want it to happen.

We wouldn't need SW pilots approval.
You may need to get a reality check on this one. Are you able to force your significant other to do something he/she does not want to do? We are not dictators or Kings. We also have very little leverage in this matter.

The only history of this happening in this industry that I am familiar with is the American Eagle Project and the Mesa/Freedom Project. At Amercian Eagle, three or four commuters (that was what they were called) that were outsourcers for American, all were willing participants for a slaughter in the mid 90's. They wanted it so bad that they were willing to make concessions and sign a 15 year contract. They managed to put it together, but at a significant long term cost. That contract ran out last year. Now look at the situation, what good did it do them? At Mesa, they had to give away the farm to get Freedom on their list. Again, what good did it do them?

In summary, "We" cannot have any influence over merging all because ALL are not willing participants and the INC MGMT has been very clear that it will not happen--ask the Xjet guys. And if we were, there would be a cost too steep to make it happen. Based on the history above, most pilots wouldn't want to make those kind of sacrifices. It's a pipedream and the benefits would never outweight the benefits--history proves it!

 

[aircombat]

Originally Posted by aircombat
Of course SW pilots don't desire a merger. Like previously pointed out. Non union companies reap all of the benefits from their ALPA counterparts.
It is what it is. You need to get over that and move on. Why do you even care what they get?

Well you should. They are getting your beloved 700/900s
Your American Eagle and Mesa examples are completely different. I don't know if there is an example of a union airline forcing a merger with a non union airline. ALPA seems to like the whipsaw and it will be their downfall. Just because it hasn't happened doesn't mean it can't. And mark my words the cost of not doing so will eventually be higher than not.

 

[777forever]

Lol of course it is safer to operate 200/700 separately just as it is safer to stay in bed all day than to risk getting up and hurting yourself

 

[Freebrd]

Lol of course it is safer to operate 200/700 separately just as it is safer to stay in bed all day than to risk getting up and hurting yourself

astounding

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Were are the accident examples. And FWI I have been between nearly every seat from the ATR to 900.

So what, you've flown four airplanes? Whoop de friggin doo. There is no way someone going from six months of flying the -200 just hops in a -900 and has a stellar time of it. No way. You assume the people you work with are competent. You have to look at the entire pilot group and understand exactly what you're dealing with. Safety departments look at the big picture, which isn't you. Plenty of idiots here who get through only by the graces of their ******************** eating Southern accent.

 

[SpaceShipEarth]

Hell I'm scary enough in just one aircraft here and I've flown 40 different types.... I'm a no vote on dual qual.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Hell I'm scary enough in just one aircraft here and I've flown 40 different types.... I'm a no vote on dual qual.

Having just done 200,700 and 900 in one 4 day trip, while they all look similar, the differences are enough to be a distraction.

 

[Flyguy1226]

So... when is this USAirways flying coming?

 

[79%N1]

So... when is this USAirways flying coming?

It's not......

Unfounded rumor with zero basis in fact.

 

[damnflyboy]

It's not......

Unfounded rumor with zero basis in fact.

Ok. So I'm going to crawl back into my hole and continue dying.

 

[Flyguy1226]

Ok. So I'm going to crawl back into my hole and continue dying.

Might as well. Hell, even Brad has given up on his weekly updates. At least I haven't seen one in a while...

 

[russtgol]

So... when is this USAirways flying coming?

Thats for SkyWest only....

 

[Flyguy1226]

I heard the GoJets rumor too. The reason for them having staffing issues is because a large amount of their pilots are furloughed United and United is planning on recalling them next year. GoJets sucks!

Today was suppose to the the first GoJet flight for DL out of DTW... All the flights got either canceled or replaced by other DCI carriers.

Good Job Delta! F'ing idiots!

 

[COOPERVANE]

Today was suppose to the the first GoJet flight for DL out of DTW... All the flights got either canceled or replaced by other DCI carriers.

Good Job Delta! F'ing idiots!

I know it would never happen, but wouldn't it be awesome if no other carriers accepted the flying and pick up the slack? It would ultimately be better for EVERYBODY. Too bad somebody sees the short term gain only.

 

[ASApuppy]

Maybe I'm late to the party, but has anyone else noticed that our new uniforms are spec'd exactly like Skywest's? I recently saw a Skywest FO and noticed the color of his strips and how they go all around the sleeve. exact same as my restriped blazer. Buttons are the same too. Throw in no "new name" and the wing design almost the same. Hummmmmmm

If I was management, and the end goal was "One" airline, this would be how I'd play it.

 

[COOPERVANE]

God.......we really are grasping for straws aren't we? Any good news, any rumor that explains the seemingly retarded actions of this company is considered.

Maybe they are just retarded. The rednecks in ATL are really in over their head.

My 6 year old daughter laughed at the name SUREJET.....

 

[shadowpuppet]

Might as well. Hell, even Brad has given up on his weekly updates. At least I haven't seen one in a while...

Brad just put an update up today. Seems like he also answered the question that is the title of this thread too. 37 seat jets coming back from the desert?? ouch! What's next? is the Dash 7 service coming back too

 

[blesko]

Brad just put an update up today. Seems like he also answered the question that is the title of this thread too. 37 seat jets coming back from the desert?? ouch! What's next? is the Dash 7 service coming back too

Ahhhhh yes more growth on that side while we in ATL, IAD and DTW continue to get tea bagged.

 

[777forever]

Brad just put an update up today. Seems like he also answered the question that is the title of this thread too. 37 seat jets coming back from the desert?? ouch! What's next? is the Dash 7 service coming back too

Its a surprise that United would rather have 5 135s instead of 5 200s that ASA had available

 

[goahead]

Ask Brad why the shrinking of one side while the other side blows up! Send him a quick email on the easy to use "brad" link in his weekly message. I did and will repost what he says, unless I'm fired then I'll post pics from Vegas!!!