Furloughed Options Pilots SCREWED??.Again ?

[GlorifiedCabbie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vblJ6RF7rM

 

[luckydog]

I was thinking more on the lines of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-sALU_hveA

 

[TWA 2 ASA FO]

Who are you,the gatekeeper?

Does your union have a position on this?

I am sure they had input into this since the have a "seat at the table" which your dues pay for.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

Can't speak for the union, but you seem to be the one putting up roadblocks to bringing back a few of our pilots.

 

[TWA 2 ASA FO]

Can't speak for the union, but you seem to be the one putting up roadblocks to bringing back a few of our pilots.

What roadblocks am I puting up?

Your furloughed pilots have recall rights to FO per your CBA. Last time I checked there are no provisions for them to be recalled to FJ, hence why they had to interview.

The same goes for your active pilots. You are not a FJ employee and the way to become one should be just like the rest of us, through the interview process. The precedent has been set by us interviewing your furloughed pilots, is there some reason you feel you are more qualified and should be able to bypass the interview process. The only difference between you and your furloughed pilots is a seniority number.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

So according to you, Uncle cannot claim he is bringing the furloughed pilots back.

 

[TWA 2 ASA FO]

So according to you, Uncle cannot claim he is bringing the furloughed pilots back.

The furloughed pilots are only being "brought" back if they are recalled to FO.

A furloughed pilot who is hired at FJ is still furloughed from FO and has recall rights. Not sure why this is so hard for you to understand.

 

[chainring]

The Union will get voted out and Kenn will merge the 2 pilot groups just like he did with Travel Air and Options. Either DOH or the percentage method. He will take a vote from all the pilots and go with whichever one gets the most votes.

 

[TWA 2 ASA FO]

The Union will get voted out and Kenn will merge the 2 pilot groups just like he did with Travel Air and Options. Either DOH or the percentage method. He will take a vote from all the pilots and go with whichever one gets the most votes.

Who exactly is going to petition the NMB for a single carrier ruling?

 

[chainring]

Hard to say how it will unfold. I feel more and more Options guys I talk with are ready to let the chips fall where they may and file and vote. Or if enough Options guys fill out the yellow cards for either In house, 1108 or no union then I believe it could force the Unions hand. At some point I think even the Union knows they will have to file.

 

[doh]

TWA, didn't the man himself say something about wanting to realize the synergies by combining us? It was in the first talk he gave. If the man himself wants us merged, it's my experience it happens regardless. But time will tell, nothing to get cranked up about that I can see.

 

[TakeX]

Exactly...

Hard to say how it will unfold. I feel more and more Options guys I talk with are ready to let the chips fall where they may and file and vote. Or if enough Options guys fill out the yellow cards for either In house, 1108 or no union then I believe it could force the Unions hand. At some point I think even the Union knows they will have to file.

Exactly. When the FO pilot group realizes the union's leadership cares more about union survival than a legitimate merger (where current seniority would dictate pilot opportunities...no bottom of the list), then the cards will follow.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

If this opportunity for FO pilots was truly a chance for growth at FJ,Why are they granting LOA's for only 2 years. I'll stay where i'm at and see what happens when the FO pilots return.

 

[dash_trash]

FJ reached out to FO furloughs and interviewed months ago.

Not completely true ... several of us were never contacted ... no training or background issues ... just involvement in the unions beginnings is my guess.

 

[TWA 2 ASA FO]

Not completely true ... several of us were never contacted ... no training or background issues ... just involvement in the unions beginnings is my guess.

We only reached out to the top 100. I believe there are still about 80 +\- left to call after all the active pilots have a chance to move over.