I have no problem with guys like you. My problem is with guys like JoeyMerchant who want to stay at the regionals, but aren't happy just flying small airplanes to small airports. They want to steal the big airplanes from the majors. If it was up to Joey, ASA would be able to "bid" on Delta's 767 flying and start flying to Paris as a contractor.
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Furloughed mainline pilots entitled to left seat of their regional carriers?
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I have no problem with guys like you. My problem is with guys like JoeyMerchant who want to stay at the regionals, but aren't happy just flying small airplanes to small airports. They want to steal the big airplanes from the majors. If it was up to Joey, ASA would be able to "bid" on Delta's 767 flying and start flying to Paris as a contractor.
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Thats alright pcl when Airtranny fourloughs your high and mighty ass we will let you come to work at ASA! You will probably be in for quite a shock when you open your dumbass mouth and get a boot shoved up your ass, but you will learn. There is nobody getting left seats at ASA, I don't care if we grow by 100 planes at Delta pilots expence. You want a job, apply and good luck. If you want the left seat you will have to try and convince our MEC and the rest of the membership that it is good for them. Good luck with that!! PCL you are a PFT scumbag that found ALPA religion and now want all of your prior sins forgiven. Well sorry for your luck, but this ain't church and you will always be a PFT scumbag!!!!
Unlikely that I'll be getting furloughed, little man. But thanks for the job offer. I'm not interested.
I don't blame you, who wants to make a lateral move?
NWA DC-9 driver, huh?
12 year AirTran 717 (DC-9) CA - $153/hr
12 year NWA DC-9 CA - $126/hr
If you'd like to move up the ladder, you can always apply here. :laugh:
Hired there...turned it down.
Just wait....we'll see who laughs at the new joint payscale.
BTW what's that come out to per hour when you subtract your PFT?
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Already seen it: $145/hr. Still $8/hr less. :laugh:
You've seen wrong...if you have access to it then tell me what it is on: 1/1/09, 1/1/10, 1/1/11, 1/1/12?
Don't have the numbers past 1/1/09 in front of me. I believe it was 4% increases, if I remember right.
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Here's an idea:
If you lost your job at an ALPA carrier - you go to any regional and have ALPA make up the difference between first and second year FO pay so the furloughee can at least survive/make better cash than unemployment. You start as a bottom-of-the-list FO for bidding purposes.
Or.... if you have a "flow-back" option, you go to the bottom of the list as an FO and get paid years of service from the carrier from which you are coming from. In other words, if you are a 2nd year NWA FO, you go to the bottom of the list for bidding purposes, but make 2nd year FO pay.
But in any case, it's not right for any mainline guy to go back to regionals and displace anyone already there.
If you lost your job at an ALPA carrier - you go to any regional and have ALPA make up the difference between first and second year FO pay so the furloughee can at least survive/make better cash than unemployment. You start as a bottom-of-the-list FO for bidding purposes.
Or.... if you have a "flow-back" option, you go to the bottom of the list as an FO and get paid years of service from the carrier from which you are coming from. In other words, if you are a 2nd year NWA FO, you go to the bottom of the list for bidding purposes, but make 2nd year FO pay.
But in any case, it's not right for any mainline guy to go back to regionals and displace anyone already there.
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And uhhh what are you making????
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Regional Pilot : You want our jobs?
Mainline Pilot : I think I'm entitled.
Regional Pilot : You want our jobs?
Mainline Pilot : I want the left seat!
Regional Pilot : You can't handle our payrates!
Son, we work at a lift provider that has no work rules, and those work rules have to be flown by men at low pay. Whose gonna do it? You, Mr. Deltoid? You, Marvin Mainliner? I have more fatigue here than you could possibly fathom. You weep for your gutted CBA, and you curse the regionals. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That my CBA, while tragic, probably provides jobs. And that my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, provides jobs. I know deep down in places you don’t talk about on 20 hour layovers, you don't want me on reduced rest, you need me on reduced rest. We use words like carpet dance, ALPA sucks, maybe one day. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent flying fatigued. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a prima donna who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very contract lift I provide, then question the manner in which I provide it. I prefer you said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a turboprop manual and do a real V1 cut. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to!
Mainline Pilot: Did you pay for training?
Regional Pilot : I did the job I was hired to do!
Mainline Pilot: Did you go to Gulfstream International!
Regional Pilot : Your god damn right I did!
Mainline Pilot : I think I'm entitled.
Regional Pilot : You want our jobs?
Mainline Pilot : I want the left seat!
Regional Pilot : You can't handle our payrates!
Son, we work at a lift provider that has no work rules, and those work rules have to be flown by men at low pay. Whose gonna do it? You, Mr. Deltoid? You, Marvin Mainliner? I have more fatigue here than you could possibly fathom. You weep for your gutted CBA, and you curse the regionals. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That my CBA, while tragic, probably provides jobs. And that my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, provides jobs. I know deep down in places you don’t talk about on 20 hour layovers, you don't want me on reduced rest, you need me on reduced rest. We use words like carpet dance, ALPA sucks, maybe one day. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent flying fatigued. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a prima donna who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very contract lift I provide, then question the manner in which I provide it. I prefer you said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a turboprop manual and do a real V1 cut. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to!
Mainline Pilot: Did you pay for training?
Regional Pilot : I did the job I was hired to do!
Mainline Pilot: Did you go to Gulfstream International!
Regional Pilot : Your god damn right I did!
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Nice! :laugh:
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