Frontier pilots in dispute with Union

[USMC319]

I posted this info so that new hires can see what is going on right now, maybe I should cut and paste some of the battle from the FAPA site on here, that would be fun, at least here no one knows who I am if I post that stuff
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Now that exudes CLASS, Bravo, and benevolent too!

I can see why you want to use flightinfo.com to complain because the FAPA board is just the same handful of people bitching to each other. Where is the fun in that. I don't even go on the FAPA board anymore because it is so predictable and stale from the same group of 10%ers. If there was a chance of an original thought coming from there I may be intrigued.

 

[QRC]

Sorry to change the subject. Just curious, ricJ41, were you in the pool, previously called to interview last year, or newly called to interview this year? Thanks. hoping for a call soon.

I start class next monday. I know that Frontier isn't champagne and caviar but it's a lot better then many other places and I am looking forward to it. To air this out on a public message board just makes you look petty. Not only that but the title is completely misleading. I thought this was going to be about a serious topic when I clicked on the link. CASS is important but to me it ranks way down on the list. And I will be commuting. I know that Frontier is a Denver based airline and always will be. The 2 guys who wrote me recs both live there. And of the 7 of us hired 4 live in Denver. See ya at the GO monday at 0800

 

[Pilotbob3]

I start class next monday. I know that Frontier isn't champagne and caviar but it's a lot better then many other places and I am looking forward to it. To air this out on a public message board just makes you look petty. Not only that but the title is completely misleading. I thought this was going to be about a serious topic when I clicked on the link. CASS is important but to me it ranks way down on the list. And I will be commuting. I know that Frontier is a Denver based airline and always will be. The 2 guys who wrote me recs both live there. And of the 7 of us hired 4 live in Denver. See ya at the GO monday at 0800

CASS way down on your list as a commuter??? LOL tell us where it is on your "list" in about 6 months!

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Why air all this on flightinfo.com?

Sure, come here and look at everybody else's dirty laundry without sharing your own? No way man!!!!!!

 

[M3pilot]

This may come as a little off topic, but I was just curious as to the current interviewing schedule. USMC319, AnimalTale, F9Driver - can you/will you share a little about the timeline? Specifically, I'm talking about the call for interview. I'm hopeful for an interview but not sure how much lead time they typically give the folks they are going to call. I'm not trying to be impatient, just have an idea so I can arrange time off with my employer, etc.

TIA,

M3

 

[F9 Driver]

I think it's about two weeks from call to interview, but RICJ41 can probably give a better estimate.

Good luck!

 

[M3pilot]

Thanks F9. I was reading a reply to a previous post. The original post made mention of losing money this quarter, furloughing, etc. Did I read wrong that F9 posted a $6.9M profit this quarter (compared to a $2.1M loss this quarter last year)? Maybe that post was from a long time ago or just speculation, but I'm pretty sure the airline made money. Good for them. Also, Frontier's not done much furloughing that I've seen in the past 4 years. I was particularly impressed with the way everyone stepped up and offered voluntary pay cuts to avoid that very situation. On top of that, weren't they paid back? Just the kind of place I want to be and the culture I want to be a part of!

I know there are a lot of bitter pilots out there and sometimes rightfully so, but to make it your mission to make your impressions someone else's is crossing the line. Sorry naysayers, you can't change my opinion. I'm going to keep chasing my dream job with F9 and make the best of my career, wherever it may lead. It's disappointing to see that some of said naysayers flew in the military. You'd think they'd appreciate the opportunity to actually make a difference somewhere instead of being a "number" at a "job".

Whether or not they hire me, I'll always be a HUGE F9 fan. They've taken care of me as a passenger - usually an indication of how they take care of their employees/each other. And no, it wasn't just management; my experience is based on how I've treated by the crew and ticket agents/baggage handlers, etc. Their happiness and contentment shows in the way they treat their customers. It's a choice, but somehow part of the culture. Good on 'em.

M3

 

[F9 Driver]

We did make money this Q, but expect to lose more than we made next Q This is due to the W/X damage to Cancun/Cosumel (sp?) and MSY more than anything.

Last time we furloughed was in the 90's and then only for a short time I think. Pilots voted to take a temporary pay cut after 9/11 rather than furlough anyone.

I'm sure happy here, and think most are. Things are getting better not worse, and this fact eludes some folks who focus only on their pet peve.

Seems to me that the more unhappy a person is the louder/more out spoken they become.

 

[Shrek]

Dude,

Like I said, "if u dont like it"---->LEAVE. Stop your BitChing and moaning. Stop trying to get attention and more importantly stop running to this board like a COWARD.

If u have problems, do something about it. Dont just spew poison on a message board (FAPA/Flightinfo) and expect thing to get down. Sacrafice a day in your miserable life and attend a FAPA meeting and make a change happen.

Better yet let me nominate you as commutting chair!


Also for all you F9 hopefuls. You will see there will be a select handful (count them on 2 hands) that will complain about everything. (ie the Sheraton Suites in San Diego is aweful, or Crew meals are cold or the Airbus sucks) Just ignore them.

Cya

Better yet.....all you 10% leave so I can get an interview. If you thought F9 was bad I can get you an interview at Trans States............LOL THEN you have something to complain about.......tool

 

[crashpad]

Well said M3, you're a great fit for F9. I hope it happens for you.

BTW, I don't think it's wise to post anything about F9 if you have inside info, nor to reveal even partial identities on this board. Those are my personal rules.

 

[jetalc]

BTW, I don't think it's wise to post anything about F9 if you have inside info, nor is it professional to reveal even partial idintities on this board. Those are my personal rules.

So, you don't think I should give Pete crap anymore for being angry that he was fired?

 

[M3pilot]

Well put. Can't wait to be living the dream.

M3

 

[F9 Driver]

BTW, I don't think it's wise to post anything about F9 if you have inside info, nor is it professional to reveal even partial idintities on this board. Those are my personal rules.

The company issued guidance to "the street" about our expected loss. Not "inside info."

As far as posting a partial identity... Letting ex-nutjetter know that he isn't going to act anonymously and with impunity may keep him from doing something else that could bring harm / negatively impact the Frontier pilot group or Frontier Airlines(without ratting him out to Corp Comm.) Just my personal rule. :beer:

 

[crashpad]

The company issued guidance to "the street" about our expected loss. Not "inside info."

As far as posting a partial identity... Letting ex-nutjetter know that he isn't going to act anonymously and with impunity may keep him from doing something else that could bring harm / negatively impact the Frontier pilot group or Frontier Airlines. Just my personal rule. :beer:

I wasn't referring to your thread about the lose (that's publically released), just my own opinion and fear someone will reveal my secret identity...how could I continue to speak for truth, justice and the American way.
F9 Driver is always professional.

 

[AnimalTale]

M3,

I posted a quote from last year posted by a negative person at F9. Yaks, was expecting furloughs, and loss of money. I just wanted to let him know to be positive. It is better than pessimism.

By the way, just cause we posted profit doesnt mean we are out of the woods. We will celebrate the profit. And as responsible employees we will do our best to continue to be diligent in our effort to create profits and hire people like you.

Cya

"NO BODY OWES YOU ANYTHING"