For All You FLOPS BJ Pilots, a little memory lane action

[guido411]

I love skanza's comment that "all airplanes leak something". Yup, that Boeing Stearman with the drip pan underneath the engine sure is the workhorse of the fractional fleet these days. I don't fly for Flops anymore but god do I miss the days that mx would tell me the switches had a designed "seep". Make them write that on a 501.

The airplanes that I fly now don't leak ANYTHING (except when the ice melts out of the drawer) because they are not abused and they are well maintained.

Also, I try not to wish harm on most people, but I'm waiting for the day when skanza's airplane has a rapid decompression right when the shoddy O2 mask slips out of the cradle. Hopefully he won't also be on fire and have to look through damaged smoke goggles while trying to use the broken smoke clearing device.

We all know that we have to PLAN FOR THE WORST in this job. Skanza, your cavalier attitude towards safety is disturbing...where do you draw the line as to what's safe and what's not? You don't care about things like O2 masks, do you also not care about taking off over MGTOW? Do you blast off into cloudy skies from KASE because the likelyhood of an engine failure is remote?

I do, however, agree with you on one thing..."crapper" is a funny word!

 

[brokeflyer]

I guaranty that you did not come up with this list in the interest of flying a a "safe and legal" airplane. You have cherry-picked things that will ground an airplane and not deferrable just to be assigned to another airplane to do the same thing. Some of the items are bull$hit and you know it, but "I just want to follow the law and be safe" is your justification. I see that as an outright abuse of a pilot's authority: to use the preflight of an airplane to find nit-noid things rendering the aircraft grounded as a leveraging tool for a labor agreement rather than to actually ensure the safety of the machine prior to flight. You can disagree with me all you want and keep claiming the safety and legality is behind this, but we all know what you're really doing, including you.
I can't wait to fly with you.

future chief pilot right there.....its attitudes like yours that CAUSE accidents.

If a plane passes my inspection then it is safe. That is one of the duties of being a PIC.....You'll learn that one day if you get a good IOE instructor.

 

[dime line]

And there you have it folks, FLOPS at its best.

Hey Skumza ever heard of Air Aloha, that measly 6" micro crack on that 737 that blew off the top of that plane. I'm so glad your working at FLOPS, you are the cream of the crop. Job well done.

46. Big Dents under the door from stair malfunction. Must be measured with a caliper, That area is pressurized *yup, just drop the stairs, they'll dent. Oops!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aloha_Airlines_Flight_243


"According to the official NTSB report of the investigation, Gayle Yamamoto, a passenger, noticed a crack in the fuselage upon boarding the aircraft prior to the ill-fated flight but did not notify anyone.[1] The crack was located aft of the front port side passenger door. This crack was probably due to metal fatigue related to the 89,090 compression and decompression cycles experienced in the short hop flights by Aloha."

 

[brokeflyer]

lol he got served right there.....lol

 

[skanza]

And there you have it folks, FLOPS at its best.

Hey Skumza ever heard of Air Aloha, that measly 6" micro crack on that 737 that blew off the top of that plane. I'm so glad your working at FLOPS, you are the cream of the crop. Job well done.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aloha_Airlines_Flight_243


"According to the official NTSB report of the investigation, Gayle Yamamoto, a passenger, noticed a crack in the fuselage upon boarding the aircraft prior to the ill-fated flight but did not notify anyone.[1] The crack was located aft of the front port side passenger door. This crack was probably due to metal fatigue related to the 89,090 compression and decompression cycles experienced in the short hop flights by Aloha."

Well Dimebag,
What I meant by the red type was: This is a good way to cause a dent in the fuselage, so you can ground the airplane, so mgnt has to find a charter, so you can make a point about negotiations, etc...
I did not say, nor imply, to fly a broken/dented airplane. I am just showing that this list was formed purely to break airplanes in the name of the union battle.
If anyone here thinks I promote flying un- airworthy equipment, "looking the other way", or (and I hate this one) waiting until you get to a mx base to write it up, you are wrong. Can I be more clear?

Once gain, my problem with this "list" mentality is you use your "preflight" as leverage for labor negotiations. Period.

Don't fly broken airplanes, don't break unbroken airplanes.

 

[skanza]

Yes, by the way, I am accusing some people of causing damage to an airplane in order to have a write up. There's no way to prove it, but that doesn't matter. Only those people know the truth and that's all that counts.

 

[brokeflyer]

looks like a list for training someone what to look for so they don't have to fly unairworthy airplanes to me.

When you become a PIC you'll learn this stuff. You need to realize that it's OUR ass if something goes wrong.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

I guaranty that you did not come up with this list...

For you own edification, its spelled guarantee. :blush:

 

[skyismyoffice]

future chief pilot right there.....its attitudes like yours that CAUSE accidents.

Actually, he sounds like the current chief pilot at FLOPS. Is that you TM?

 

[dime line]

Well Dimebag,
What I meant by the red type was: This is a good way to

cause

a dent in the fuselage,

so you can ground the airplane, so mgnt has to find a charter, so you can make a point about negotiations, etc...

So what are you saying here?

I did not say, nor imply, to fly a broken/dented airplane. I am just showing that this list was formed purely to break airplanes in the name of the union battle.

If anyone here thinks I promote flying un- airworthy equipment, "looking the other way", or (and I hate this one) waiting until you get to a mx base to write it up, you are wrong. Can I be more clear?

Hell no your not clear at all. Look at what you wrote above.

Once gain, my problem with this "list" mentality is you use your "preflight" as leverage for labor negotiations. Period.

Don't fly broken airplanes, don't break unbroken airplanes.

Wow I can agree with you for once, what do you think were doing.

Yo Dumb Azz read line 46 again the first TWO words.
The write up means the dent was already there.

Again, Cream of the crop at FLOPS