Follow your contract :HOTEL VANS

[Golden Falcon]

until you step onto that aircraft

In our operations, as well as previous ststesside ones I have worked at...the commander is responsible for the crew while away from base, regardless of whether the crew is on duty or not...not to say the commander has complete authority over the actions of the other crewmembers...but this whole thread is about a whining idiot and his "contractually compliant transport" good grief boys get real...if the guy wants to go early then fine come later but raising ridiculous points about contractually compliant is moronic...whats the whole stuation??? weather or MEL items the Capt might have wanted some extra time to review??? there has to be something missing to "f.o. Jr Halfbright's" story here

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Contract negotiations.

 

[front9]

Are you stupid? Which part of your Avatar are you? the left or right?
Would you allow someone to tell you to waive provisions in your contract?
Just curious, how am I a right seat Captain because I refused to waive my contract provisions regarding the hotel van?

AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, HEHEHEHE AAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA, SOMEONES ANGRY...

Look Junior, I can tell you're an insecure little silver spoon in mouth brat who still rebels against authority. How do I know this...just by the way you responded to my little post. You aint <---yes its a word in the south, the Captain and you aint telling us the whole story. Just by your little whiny post, I'm guessing you probably questioned every decision the captain made for the last 10 days and things finally came to a head that last day.

You may want to look at how you act and carry yourself. Yes the CA is probably a Dbag Ahole that no one wants to fly with. But you are also the disrespectful, anti-authority, Right Seat CA that REAL Captains bid avoid. May you always fly with an all male crew. Bye Bye...

 

[front9]

....sorry....part two....

I'm assuming after some soul searching he realized it was pointless

Yeah, I dont blame the guy, its hard to argue with an idiot...

One funny note. It was my leg and after a smooth approach and landing

AAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....good job Chuck. Here let me finish that sentence for ya

One funny note. It was my leg and after a smooth approach and landing...

I had to run to FI right away and tell everybody cause I have no real friends to tell about my day.

Dude just relax...life is too short to get worked up over 30 min of sleep.

 

[Wesb737fo]

Contract negotiations.

F'n straight.....

 

[Wesb737fo]

AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, HEHEHEHE AAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA, SOMEONES ANGRY...

Look Junior, I can tell you're an insecure little silver spoon in mouth brat who still rebels against authority. How do I know this...just by the way you responded to my little post. You aint <---yes its a word in the south, the Captain and you aint telling us the whole story. Just by your little whiny post, I'm guessing you probably questioned every decision the captain made for the last 10 days and things finally came to a head that last day.

You may want to look at how you act and carry yourself. Yes the CA is probably a Dbag Ahole that no one wants to fly with. But you are also the disrespectful, anti-authority, Right Seat CA that REAL Captains bid avoid. May you always fly with an all male crew. Bye Bye...

My query to your stupidity was justified and made with no anger. If I touched a nerve about working at Mesa (hopefully you aren't still there), you have my sincere apology. However, you made a boatload of assumptions without knowing me. At no time during any portion of the flying did I ever question the Captain's authority.

As a matter of fact things were quite amicable until I was told that our Union was horrible and that I should be happy to have had a job. Upon protest, I was then told that if I didn't like my contract that I should quit.

Junior? Insecure? Brat? Way off buddy. If standing up for my contract by refusing to violate it makes me a right seat Captain then I'll take those stripes. Look, from your avatar it appears you are a Mesa survivor or maybe you're still there, either way, I don't think you have any idea as to what is going on at this airline.

 

[Ty Webb]

I'm a Captain at the same airline. The FO can take whatever van he wants. If he shows up on time, who cares? If he shows up late, then it's his responsibility, we're all adults. He used the term "Contractually Compliant van" because that is a hot-button topic right now, and was trying to make a point . . . . and he was right. Why you ass-clowns want to weigh in on this AirTran issue is beyond me. From what I hear, MESA guys don't know much about hotels, since they're either sharing a trailer at an out station, sleeping on the plane, or flying 26 legs a day and living in their parent's basement.

 

[front9]

I love how putting a funny avatar up automatically associates me with Mesa Airlines...
HAHAHA I love it!
Dont work there, never worked there, never slept on a purple board between seats...sorry chaps, hate to bust your bollocks but you two are both wrong.
I have no dog in this fight, I think its a SH!TTY deal u guys are getting but Right seat CA over here whined his way onto FI to garner sympathy and I aint about to give it to him. In fact, since he wont disclose (read lie) about what really happened and only told the portion to make him look good, I just razzed him a bit...so grow a pair and suck it up or not - whatever...IDK.

 

[tomgoodman]

Laid back

During a CRM class, the instructor asked: "Suppose your F/O shows up at the airplane five minutes before pushback. How would you handle that?"
An old Captain replied: "If he beats me, he beats me."

 

[Gate 69]

Now that's funny! Much better than the name calling. When did Airtran start doing 10 day trips?

 

[mvedepo]

It seems to me that you didn't do anything to difuse the situation. My guess is that you were pissed off at this guy throughout the trip and you took this opportunity to stoke the fire. Not saying the Capt was right but you yourself handled it poorly.

Napoleon Syndrome maybe?

 

[Stifler's Mom]

I'd prefer to read a thread like this that is part seriousness and part humorous. There's a chance to learn something all while having the chance to laugh at some of your witty comments.

The other option is to listen to Brown-to-the-Bone and his threads all day long.

 

[Wesb737fo]

I love how putting a funny avatar up automatically associates me with Mesa Airlines...
HAHAHA I love it!
Dont work there, never worked there, never slept on a purple board between seats...sorry chaps, hate to bust your bollocks but you two are both wrong.
I have no dog in this fight, I think its a SH!TTY deal u guys are getting but Right seat CA over here whined his way onto FI to garner sympathy and I aint about to give it to him. In fact, since he wont disclose (read lie) about what really happened and only told the portion to make him look good, I just razzed him a bit...so grow a pair and suck it up or not - whatever...IDK.

Wow, you appear to be the one who is really sensitive about the issue of right seat Captains. What's the matter, did your First Officers stop offering to carry your flight bag?

Ramper:"Hey Captain, the airplane's burning! Where are you going?"
Front9 : "Hold on, I have to save my hat!"

Seriously, I posted the thread purely for the entertainment of those who might have a clue as to what is happening here. I have no problem with authority, however, when you cross the line between opinion and antagonism, I am going to speak up. I couldn't give 2 shiites as to wether you are sympathetic or not.

So while you are making assumptions about me, here is one for you. Since you don't work at Mesa and you use that Avatar, you must have some experience with all male flight crews.

And bollocks? seriously? Who are you, Winnie the Pooh?

 

[Ty Webb]

During a CRM class, the instructor asked: "Suppose your F/O shows up at the airplane five minutes before pushback. How would you handle that?"
An old Captain replied: "If he beats me, he beats me."

Actually, I think the quote was " .. . . the FO Shows up 5 minutes before departure with a cup of Starbucks and the newspaper under his arm . . .".

 

[Ty Webb]

Right seat CA over here whined his way onto FI to garner sympathy and I aint about to give it to him. In fact, since he wont disclose (read lie) about what really happened and only told the portion to make him look good, I just razzed him a bit...so grow a pair and suck it up or not - whatever...IDK.

I'm betting you are on a lot of FO's "no fly list" and probably for a reason. I'm also betting you're a little short in the johnson department and wear your uniform in public places a lot.