FLOPS Union Busting

[Jetsi]

http://www.yourcompanyyouroptions.com/

From the latest AIN Alerts:

Flight Options Fights Union Drive
Since the International Brotherhood of Teamsters Local 1108 filed an application letter to the National Mediation Board (NMB) for representation of the 830 Flight Options pilots earlier this month, the fractional provider has increased efforts to thwart the union drive. It has set up a Web site to provide information to the pilot workforce about unions and, according to NMB filings, hired union-busting law firm Ford & Harrison. NMB rules prohibit Flight Options from interfering in the union election process, so the site’s content has been crafted so as to not portray an anti-union stance. However, it does explain how not to vote in the expected Flight Options union election, which would be conducted using a telephone electronic voting system. In a recent recorded message to the pilots, Flight Options COO and acting CEO S. Michael Scheeringa said, “While we believe in the pilots’ rights to make their own decisions regarding representation, we do not feel that it’s in the best interest to vote for Teamster representation.” Flight Options declined to comment.

Man oh man, does that sure look familiar. Guess it worked so well for Raytheon the first time they figured they would give it a shot again.

If there are any fence sitters (and I don't see how their could be) think long and hard before the election.

Good luck to you all.

Jetsi

 

[sdmund]

Never mind...I'm stupid.

 

[Hawkered]

I'd say, that's a fruitless effort on the part of Options!

 

[Texasskicker]

Yea, and..

I'd say, that's a fruitless effort on the part of Options!

You'd say that? Where is the credibility in what YOU have to say?

 

[Hawkered]

I've already seen some of the stat's on the voting!

 

[Texasskicker]

Yea, and...

I've already seen some of the stat's on the voting!

Once again, where is the credibility in the hot air you create? How do you have access to the stats on the voting big man?

 

[Hawkered]

I am in a positon to know...and you Sir, are on the wrong side of history!!

The Association of Shared Airline Pilots will get elected to represent Flight Options, and Raytheon will be forced topay its pilots properly and to stop breaking promises.

They deserve a union!

 

[Texasskicker]

Oooh

I am in a positon to know...and you Sir, are on the wrong side of history!!

The Association of Shared Airline Pilots will get elected to represent Flight Options, and Raytheon will be forced topay its pilots properly and to stop breaking promises.

They deserve a union!

Ooooh, you are SO powerful Honkered! I'm getting a very special feeling. I think you really do know. I might be on the wrong side of fifty, but history? Time will tell.

I'll get back to you on that one. Now, dont you have some triangles with exclamation points to click on you big baby?

Moderator reviewed.

 

[TORCH67]

Sir, you do nothing but bring shame down on the good name of Texas. Please stop making a fool out of yourself and the Great State of Texas.

 

[Going2Baja]

Sir, you do nothing but bring shame down on the good name of Texas. Please stop making a fool out of yourself and the Great State of Texas.

Agreed!!! I have family back to the Alamo and you are the first person that claims Texas and acts like a horses A$$.

Baja.

 

[GerryG]

Sniff, Sniff

This thread is a textbook example of how the Union busting trolls do their work on this web site. Notice Jetsi began this thread with a nice factual post which, if it were not for the interventions of Texas, might have led to an informative discussion of the issues, specifically Union busting. But Texas, or more specifically Ford&Harrison don't want us to have a relevant discussion about the issues, they want us to fight among ourselves. See how easy it was for Texas to derail this thread with a simple insult. It would be nice if we could all avoid this trap. Don't take the bait these troll's dangle, just ignore them so we can prevent them from derailing future posts.

I think by now we all know who the Union busting trolls are, who have been assigned to work against the Flight Options Union drive. Don't return fire, just ignore. Or if you must return fire do it in an educational way.

 

[Publishers]

Flight Options may well go for a union..... what might be of more concern is Raytheon even wanting to keep Options going or will they dump it as quick as they can....what effect will the unionization have on the sale? ??? the possiblilities are endless.
My question is will Raytheon, a manufacturer really want to be in a business that to be competitive in they might have to have other manufacturer's aircraft and associated liability.

 

[realityman]

Publishers,your post makes no sense. It's already pretty well known throughout the industry that Raytheon does not want to be in the fractional business anymore. This has been discussed quite thoroughly in previous threads, so if you don't believe me just search the threads for yourself. But like all the other fractional providers, they have contracts with their clients, and are continuing to sell more, so it's unlikely they would just shut it down.
As for operating other manufacturers aircraft, they already do. So what's the problem? There isn't any additional liability for doing that than any of the other fractionals face. Oops, well maybe NJA is the only other one that operates multiple types from differing manufacturers, but it hasn't seemed to cause them any problems.

The real question is, will the pilots be better off with or without a union if FLOPS is sold. The union has certainly proved its value at NJA, but ultimately it's up to the pilots at FLOPS to decide if they really need one or not. I'm not pushing the union one way or the other for those guys. It's their decision, and as I don't have a vote there, it doesn't concern me. And it really doesn't concern you either Publishers.

 

[Semore Butts]

I agree with Baja and Torch and the rest...

As a resident of Texas I'd just like to say that the Texas Ass-licker is in no way representative of the great people and pilots I know from Texas.

 

[XPGuy]

We need a total of around 416 votes to "win" the election which takes place I believe March 2, 2006. I went through our seniority list today, and could personally confirm over 100 names that will be voting for it, and only about 15 that would be voting no. I find it extremely hard to believe that out of the other 700 pilots, that 300 of them won't be voting for it. This vote will be a landslide.