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Milkdud99 said:IFR with a private????
Milkdud99 said:IFR with a private????
Whirlwind said:Sure, every private pilot needs 3 hours of instrument training. Most of the time that is done with a hood on, but I always tried to get that time done in actual IMC.
Of course, there are limits to the weather I'd do this in, and 200 and 1/2 are below them. 400 and 1 are probably the lowest I'd take a student pilot up in.
Milkdud99 said:so ur saying... that in ur private training you went up in actual on an IFR clearance????? Although the FAR's dont say anything about simulated instrument, going up in actual with a student who can plan a Xcountry sounds stupid to me... but what do i know LOL
Fly_Chick said:With a private student, how much are you going to teach, and how much is the student going to learn on an actual IMC flight? I think it would just scare the student, unless of course you had quite a few hours of ground instruction beforehand about what to expect.
Sure, I will go into a cloud with a private student, call ATC for clearance for training purposes when we are in the practice area and I see an attractive, suitable cloud.
Yet I have to think about what I am teaching the student (indirectly, subconsciously) by filing and then going up in IMC with him/her.
Gulfstream 200 said:so instead you will throw them under a hood for 3 hrs on a nice vfr day?
if thats your comfy level, stick with it.
Fly_Chick said:It depends on the type of IMC. I once had a new student, very first flight, conditions IMC, and told to take him up, as he will "have to learn sometime". I did not, as I did not want him to think that normal. Just because I am instrument rated, as a private pilot, he is/will be PIC, and has to make decisions. We often lead by example, and the example I wanted to set is one of proper decision making.
Gulfstream 200 said:Understood. Now think outside the box.
Youre in early and waiting for your student. You know the wx in not VFR. You have a quick backup plan to grab a quick IFR clearance, spend 10 mins on a departure in the clouds, then do an entire lesson in great VFR wx. If the wx is still down you pick up a quick approach back in. simple enough.
Now...your sharp student shows up. He asks if you are going up? you say you dont know....you ask him to check the wx. After an in-depth analysis he comes back and says "sorry boss, we can go anywhere for hours, its 700ovc and 2m in fog here, tops at 2000ft...too bad because just 10 miles North of here is great VFR!.....maybe I will go home"....
"good decision Johnny"...
Is that where your lesson ends today?
too bad, you could have taught great decision making then turned it into a great flight lesson also.
GravityHater said:I note the CFI reports just slightly more hours than the student, relatively speaking. Probably no senior CFI or 'chief' FI overseeing things?
Milkdud99 said:ok... i somewhat see your point.. not completely tho,
PERSONALLY and this is just me, a 200' ceiling is less than what i would go up in let alone take a student up in. and the main reason is do to the MDA.. 200?????
Yes i do agree that it is the instructor asking for a problem, and i think THIS situation would be a bad idea to take a pilot who doesn't even have a rating... even sport.
Oh by the way, 4 hours a day of flight training is pretty intense. ESPECIALLY for a student pilot!
Iceman21 said:Read the article again, the CFI had over 900 hours.
Milkdud99 said:Oh by the way, 4 hours a day of flight training is pretty intense. ESPECIALLY for a student pilot!
GravityHater said:...but have to ask what the end result will be. How much $ will pass from defendant to plaintiff.