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This seems typical in an election year during summer months. I would be concerned but, not worried at this point. I can assure you that they do NOT want to furlough after recalling those guys---BAD P/R and would leave a heavy smell that would resonate for a LONG time.

The true test is winter time. If things don't pickup starting in October--start worrying. Also, I don't ever see a pay cut happening because, it's about numbers not money. If airplanes start leaving with no additions then, it comes down to number of crews per airplane. It doesn't save them that much to lay off, trust me. The iPads will be a true savings to the company, not layoffs.
 
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The bottom line is that the company will do whatever it has to do to remain solvent. Sucks, but that is the facts. We have to turn a profit or Bombardier will not be happy. No different than any other business.
 
They started prepping us last week. 10% off of our flying. Shoulda seen it coming.
 
and the subdued atmosphere in the meetings was a clue. How about hiring REAL sales people and not lip servers, that would be a start..
 
There prepping you guys for a sale or the deal is almost done.
Trim the fat and overlapping jobs, been through this before and it sounds so familiar.
Just like a DAL-NWA.
 
I'm not sure what was announced, and I'm sorry for any turbulence headed your way. Was there talk about fleet reduction plans? I've heard we have our first used-300 coming soon but not sure where it's coming from. These are some rough times we're living in, sure would be nice to get through it with everyone landing on their feet.
 
nope no fleet reductions

actually adding fleets.

The only reason a sale would happen is just to shut us down. They can go to Bombardier and buy all the challengers and lears they want.
 
doylehargraves said:
It just did and it SUCKS. I wonder how many this time? 50? How many will it take so Fred doesn't have to take a paycut?
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Fred Reid:

While at Delta was the creator of "Song" That endeavor worked well!!

Also was in charge of DCI...another winning strategy..

He also was responsible for the purchase of ASA and Comair...another winner of a move.. ASA has long been sold, and Comair was purchased for north of a billion and is now worth a fraction of that...

I know nothing about Flex, but who the heck thinks Fred Reid is a good choice for leadership??? And how does someone with a crappy record like that keep getting jobs other than the head of a Burger King?

Don't know what is going on over there but the best of luck to everyone.
 
Well if Flex is being set up to be sold, I'm sure the senior cool aid drinking pilots are going to regret their rejection of getting a union on property... Union won't help keep company from being sold but would help with integration with whoever buys us.... Too late now!
 
The frustrating thing is that there was no warning. No preventative steps. No options provided to the pilot group. Not yet anyway. From recalls and we're kicking ace to dropping the axe. Funny how that happens.
 
If the same MO is followed they'll announce Friday
Morning and start calling people that afternoon.


Would you like to supersize tha? ... Sorry just practicing.
 
I bet the layoff number is around 20. I haven't heard any rumors of us being sold but, that sounds like a really good idea at this point. What good is bombardier to us? Obviously, nothing.
 
doylehargraves said:
I bet the layoff number is around 20. I haven't heard any rumors of us being sold but, that sounds like a really good idea at this point. What good is bombardier to us? Obviously, nothing.
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Do you think that this is somewhat the same scenario as what is happening at CS? IE: What good is Flex to Bombardier? Very small revenue stream to Bombardier for the hassle/risk of running a whole flight department that has historically struggled to make money and has a small share of the market given the 800lb gorilla?

With CS and now Flex, I'm wondering if it's a industry wide problem now. And how soon the shoe drops at NJA or others....
 
doylehargraves said:
I bet the layoff number is around 20. I haven't heard any rumors of us being sold but, that sounds like a really good idea at this point. What good is bombardier to us? Obviously, nothing.
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Would it not be more economical to offer an incentive package to get 20 senior guys to retire now, rather than furlough from the bottom? Knock off the highest earners, less two captain crews, no need to drop the guys who have been back less than a year.
 
Would save on training costs in a year when these pilots leave and have to replace/retrain pilots to fill their spot
 
Maybe this is the big announcement? :)

Bombardier Flexjet is taking its rebranding efforts to the next step with the addition of Christopher Bero as the company’s new director of marketing. He joins Flexjet with more than 15 years of experience in brand marketing and communications. Most recently, Bero was responsible for managing strategic marketing activities and media initiatives at Samsung Mobile Electronics. In his new role at Flexjet, he will be responsible for the development, implementation and evaluation of marketing plans and communication strategies to further strengthen the fractional provider’s market position and brand recognition.
 
DUATS said:
Would it not be more economical to offer an incentive package to get 20 senior guys to retire now, rather than furlough from the bottom? Knock off the highest earners, less two captain crews, no need to drop the guys who have been back less than a year.
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the problem with that is some of these guys think they can fly until they're 75... some of the "highest earners" won't take it
 
exagony said:
Well if Flex is being set up to be sold, I'm sure the senior cool aid drinking pilots are going to regret their rejection of getting a union on property... Union won't help keep company from being sold but would help with integration with whoever buys us.... Too late now!
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and who's gonna buy you?? as far as biz jet operators go, only NJA could buy Flex, and NJA has bigger fish to fry, like staying alive.

Bombardier and Berkshire are stuck with these two for the moment. Let's be realistic, who's going to buy into this mess?
 
CALRepublic said:
and who's gonna buy you?? as far as biz jet operators go, only NJA could buy Flex, and NJA has bigger fish to fry, like staying alive.

Bombardier and Berkshire are stuck with these two for the moment. Let's be realistic, who's going to buy into this mess?
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You are 100% correct!
 
lol. There is not one pilot working here that saw this coming. Everyone here thought things were headed in the right direction. The reason everyone here thought that is because THAT IS WHAT WE WERE TOLD. This came from absolutely no where. The last layoff was anticipated for a long time and this one came like a fart in the wind.
 

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