Flexjet...

[Fozzy]

I have seen the guys sitting at airports without a full crew or even and aircraft. I have talked to the guys on the hotel van going to sit for the day for 8 hours then repo after that. This isn't hearsay its straight from the pilots. Are some things better at NJ than at Flex, maybe. Are some things better at Flex, YES. Is a union and a contract better, Oh Hell NO.

But back to topic I have had over 24 hour layovers and I have had 10 hour. It all depends on where you are and whether or not someone wants to go somewhere. All are the same.

Then those boys don't know their contract. Probably missed making some serious dough, or having time in the hotel. You enjoy it over there. Believe what you want about Unions.
Is a Union and a contract better? OH HELL YES!

 

[EdAtTheAirport]

Well then I guess we're all where we like. Why the discussion?

 

[finnjl]

flex is not that bad at all. actually I have had home reserve to start my rotations for 4 days this summer. Just had a 24 hour layover on the beach. I had a long last day 2 times this year, typically you are on a flight by 12-3 PM and I am usually home around 5-8 PM most of the time.

I have not had a problem with the floating rest. 9 times out of 10 you are put in rest at 5 central. Yes if you stay up late the night before thinking you have a 3 pm departure and they call you at 4 AM to recover a trip that stinks.

It does not take me my whole first day off to recover from the trip I am not sure where people are getting that.

Flex is not for everyone, If you seem to be the type of person who likes everything scheduled and very little changes than this is not the place for you.

It seems to be a good place to work. If you do not want to commute and want to live in Dallas, New York, South Florida, or Southern California this is not a bad place to work and if you do not have the airline bug. Am I ever going to be rich here, no but I will not be poor either.

 

[bailey3083]

flex is not that bad at all. actually I have had home reserve to start my rotations for 4 days this summer. Just had a 24 hour layover on the beach. I had a long last day 2 times this year, typically you are on a flight by 12-3 PM and I am usually home around 5-8 PM most of the time.

I have not had a problem with the floating rest. 9 times out of 10 you are put in rest at 5 central. Yes if you stay up late the night before thinking you have a 3 pm departure and they call you at 4 AM to recover a trip that stinks.

It does not take me my whole first day off to recover from the trip I am not sure where people are getting that.

Flex is not for everyone, If you seem to be the type of person who likes everything scheduled and very little changes than this is not the place for you.

It seems to be a good place to work. If you do not want to commute and want to live in Dallas, New York, South Florida, or Southern California this is not a bad place to work and if you do not have the airline bug. Am I ever going to be rich here, no but I will not be poor either.

Everything you say is true but remember we are wrong because we are Flex and they are right because they are Netjets. The are the best because they have a union and we do not. They are the best and we suck. You will never convince the NetJets people otherwise because they are so full of hot air. This was just flame bait. I have noticed alot of people are posting something just so they can sit back and watch NetJets chew us apart. Oh Well I have a cold beer and College football to watch.

Bailey

 

[theskyking]

Interesting reply, Bailey. If you go back and read the posts, Walshfly was the first to mention NJ. He did so by commenting on our work rules. That seems like an open invitation to set the record straight.

 

[walshsfly]

Interesting reply, Bailey. If you go back and read the posts, Walshfly was the first to mention NJ. He did so by commenting on our work rules. That seems like an open invitation to set the record straight.

Your wrong it wasn't and open invitation. It is fact, its what was really happening. They were sitting in LWB, I ate dinner with them, this isn't guessing or some sort of screwed view, straight from their mouths. I was there for an hour to pick up and they were there for 8 hours that day. The previous day the sat at hot spring VA doing the same thing. So don't blame me for pointing out the truth.

 

[Club ORD FO]

The QOL is not that bad. I came from independence and I work a hell of a lot less here than I did over there. maybe 400 hours at most my first year. Maybe I am just lucky tho... I get a 5am or earlier call maybe once every 3 rotations, a 14+ hour day maybe once every other rotation.

when I was ONT based, I got a day of home reserve 3 out of 4 rotations, did nothing but airline on my last day 50% of the time or more....

I think NJs might have better work rules (cant say I have a copy of the contract in the bathroom for reading material), but Flex is by no means slave labor or anything. I'd like to see the floating rest go away, that is the biggest pain. Makes planning sleep for a redeye the next day interesting. Stay up all night?? oh wait, the phone can ring at 1am....

 

[DirtyBeech]

Flex is just terrible. I was just on for 7 days and actually had to fly 5 of them. On top of that I had to sleep in my own bed for 3 nights. And the clincher was on day 7 I didn't go on duty until 1730lcl and terminated at my gateway at 2240lcl. One hour post flight plus a limo to my car at another airport meant I had to get an overtime day. Oh the humanity.

 

[EdAtTheAirport]

Bailey that was hilarious.

 

[doylehargraves]

Well mr Walsh, you WILL get the 16 hour last day, trust me. You've been lucky, as I have been lucky a few times too. Try getting home after 11pm FIVE rotations in a row on your last day. It's happened to me and it WILL happen to you, eventually.

I would kill for a 12 hour day on my last day lately. The problem right now at flex is we are extremely short on crews. There are a dozen airplanes sitting around every day uncrewed while the lucky ones working get 14 hour duty days to cover it. One good thing is, it can't get any worse this christmas because we're already working max days right now.

Oh and edatheairport, please change your avatar!

 

[Wankel7]

Flex is just terrible. I was just on for 7 days and actually had to fly 5 of them. On top of that I had to sleep in my own bed for 3 nights. And the clincher was on day 7 I didn't go on duty until 1730lcl and terminated at my gateway at 2240lcl. One hour post flight plus a limo to my car at another airport meant I had to get an overtime day. Oh the humanity.

DUDE ! That is horrible...where are you based?

 

[skydan5]

Well mr Walsh, you WILL get the 16 hour last day, trust me. You've been lucky, as I have been lucky a few times too. Try getting home after 11pm FIVE rotations in a row on your last day. It's happened to me and it WILL happen to you, eventually.

I would kill for a 12 hour day on my last day lately. The problem right now at flex is we are extremely short on crews. There are a dozen airplanes sitting around every day uncrewed while the lucky ones working get 14 hour duty days to cover it. One good thing is, it can't get any worse this christmas because we're already working max days right now.

Oh and edatheairport, please change your avatar!

I haven't landed that late in the year that I have been here. Maybe because I am DFW based and I almost always get a direct flight home.

I like Ed's fro! Or is that Buckwheat?

 

[DirtyBeech]

DUDE ! That is horrible...where are you based?

I'm DFW based.

 

[doylehargraves]

I get direct flights too, always after 11pm. This has to stop.

 

[KevinOppelt]

True statement: A netjet pilot will work around 20 days less per year than a flex pilot with the 7 & 7 schuedule. (different for reserve). Plus the vacation deal sucks at flex.