Flexjet Pilots About To Draw A Line In The Sand!!!

[smartelephant]

I stand corrected. Thanks for the clarification. So, in that case if furloughed is indeed the proper termanology then I suppose they will be obligated to call us first before hiring from the outside. So I guess we've got that going for us. Which is nice.

 

[Flex-ible]

Legally though, I don't believe they are "required" to contact us first if and when they need more help again.

I beg to differ. If you read the separation agreement, part of their obligations is to give us first crack for two years. If they chose not to (which I doubt would happen) I can almost guarantee 85 lawsuits.

And I really did draw a line in the sand today! But here in the desert you do that everytime you walk......

My best to those still seeking employment. Hang tough.

 

[Hung Start]

Yeah, I have to agree with Flex-ible on this one.

While I am not impressed with the new Head Honcho, in the time I was there , never was there a case were they did NOT deliver on what they said they would do.

So, I doubt they would change now.

They will call us back in the order we were let go. IMHO

Now,,,, if you don't answer the call right away,,,,,,, who knows!

Hung

 

[GSXR600]

Yeah, I have to agree with Flex-ible on this one.

While I am not impressed with the new Head Honcho, in the time I was there , never was there a case were they did NOT deliver on what they said they would do.

So, I doubt they would change now.

They will call us back in the order we were let go. IMHO

Now,,,, if you don't answer the call right away,,,,,,, who knows!

Hung

Well.....my wireless carrier is MetroPCS, so it can accidentally go to voice mail. So does that mean I am screwed? my voice mails show up 2 days later......lol. I guess everyone will be in class by then.

 

[FastJP4]

Yeah, I have to agree with Flex-ible on this one.

While I am not impressed with the new Head Honcho, in the time I was there , never was there a case were they did NOT deliver on what they said they would do.

So, I doubt they would change now.

They will call us back in the order we were let go. IMHO

Now,,,, if you don't answer the call right away,,,,,,, who knows!

Hung

Having recently spoken with someone in H20view - it appears your opinion is correct based on that conversation.






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[J3guy]

are furloughees coming back retaining their longevity?? or are they newhires at year 1?

 

[FastJP4]

are furloughees coming back retaining their longevity?? or are they newhires at year 1?

That I didn't ask, so I don't know.

 

[smartelephant]

are furloughees coming back retaining their longevity?? or are they newhires at year 1?

TC told me that we would retain longevity for vacation and sick time, but he was not sure if we would retain it for pay. I'm sure we will. I can't imagine going back at year 1 pay. I don't think they would do that.

 

[netjetwife]

Starting at the bottom again--pay wise--would be awful! And I already thought the furloughed Flex pilots were getting a raw deal having to worry about their 2 year recall limit running out---now this. I don't think any pilot should have to wonder if he/she gets to pick up where they left off. It definitely makes a strong case for the wise advice--get it in writing! When you hear things like this it's easy to see why the majority of pilots work under a contract that spells out the details and makes every agreement legally binding. There's definitely an advantage in knowing for sure versus just hoping. Good luck to the 85 and their families!

Flex-ible, keep your head down...and your chin up... as you watch your step. Regards, NJW

 

[ArtVandalay]

the last layoff guys had to go back to year 1 pay when recalled so, dont hold your breath.

 

[can99]

still year 1 pay is much better than what a lot of guys are earning now... nothing!

 

[Boxer]

Any old furloughees from back in the day... Did you go back to original pay or no? Answer:

 

[Flex-ible]

Any old furloughees from back in the day... Did you go back to original pay or no? Answer:

I am not one, but spoke directly to one who indicated that not only did they go back to Day 1, but they also signed a new training contract.

HOWEVER....I believe it is different this time since we are classified as "inactive employees". Additionally, I did not receive anything offering me the chance to transfer my 401(k) which would be required if we had no status with the company. I am hoping for "months credit" for pay, i.e. if you worked 13 months before the furlough, you get a new anniversary date 13 months prior to your recall....does that make sense?


NJW: Iraq is only slightly more dangerous than Flex's hotel in Teterboro. Pray for the guys in A-stan; much worse over there. After all, I still have the Internet!

 

[netjetwife]

So hopefully, some of you guys will get to pick up where you left off and the calendar date will be re-set to match? Is there something solid to base that hope on? If it works out that way it will be good for those who get that...but what about those who didn't...assuming they did have to go back to year one pay? That's not fair. What a tough situation. How can you ever know what to expect? Or have confidence that you'll all be treated equally?

And a new training contract, too?! Hopefully, it's just a paperwork thing and the pilots will get credit for time already put down on the original one. That would be the right thing to do. Good luck to everyone dealing with that issue. I hope it gets settled without the Flex pilots getting the short end.

Flex-ible, your A-stan request has been noted. I'm glad you have Internet service; your updates are informative. Take care. NJW

 

[Ludicris]

Netjetwife,

Thank you so much for devoting your post - number 2,576 - to this industry you don't work in, and this company you don't work for. It is so very highly appreciated.