Final Judgement DOJ - AA / US

[Bringupthebird]

The USAPA merger committee remains in place and in force until the SLI with APA is complete. Once complete it will go away.

It will go away after the representation vote. Far away!:beer:

USAPA has deluded itself into thinking it is relevant or will play any part in the SLI.

 

[Guppiedriver]

It will go away after the representation vote. Far away!:beer:

USAPA has deluded itself into thinking it is relevant or will play any part in the SLI.

A vote will not be required.

 

[Bringupthebird]

A vote will not be required.

It will be if APA wants to avoid dealing with the Charlotte Kinder Kare. They can send out cards and force an election which will put USAPA out for good before they can do any more damage.

Why would they want to risk being put under an injunction by USAPA's trademarked antics if they don't have to?

 

[shagadelic]

What's the latest on the Nic and using it during the SLI process? I know the judge was supposed to rule on ripeness of the case but I haven't followed it lately. I can't imagine any arbitrator using anything else, but stranger things have happened....

 

[General Lee]

What's the latest on the Nic and using it during the SLI process? I know the judge was supposed to rule on ripeness of the case but I haven't followed it lately. I can't imagine any arbitrator using anything else, but stranger things have happened....

A Westie friend there said final documents to be filed on the 16th of this month, and then they wait....


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Jeff Helgeson]

US guys, what do you think it will mean to CLT as a hub now?

The agreement requires all existing hubs to remain hubs for 3 years.

 

[St. Nic]

A Westie friend there said final documents to be filed on the 16th of this month, and then they wait....


Bye Bye---General Lee

"Wide range of reasonableness"

When does Marty get fired?

 

[TWA Dude]

What's the latest on the Nic and using it during the SLI process? I know the judge was supposed to rule on ripeness of the case but I haven't followed it lately.

She ruled on ripeness when she ordered the case to trial.
After the 18th all the post trial motions will be complete and she'll rule at her leisure. She's aware of the impending POR so we'll probably hear sooner than her usual M.O. of three months.

 

[TWA Dude]

When does Marty get fired?

If justice is served his services will no longer be required after Judge Silver's ruling -- unless y'all decide to waste more of our dues money and appeal.

 

[Bringupthebird]

"Wide range of reasonableness"

Had the brain trust that ginned up USAPA presented anything "reasonable" when they were suckling at the teat of ALPA, perhaps they could enjoy a real seat at the table during the most important merger of their sorry careers.

Slime-ansky has not served you well, nor has Roll 'em Wilder.

 

[Guppiedriver]

It will be if APA wants to avoid dealing with the Charlotte Kinder Kare. They can send out cards and force an election which will put USAPA out for good before they can do any more damage.

Why would they want to risk being put under an injunction by USAPA's trademarked antics if they don't have to?

From the APA....

"Within four months of the merger's Effective Date, APA will petition the National Mediation Board (NMB) for a single-carrier declaration. JCBA negotiations are to begin as soon as practicable after the Effective Date of the merger and may be completed anytime between then and 30 days after the NMB issues its single-carrier declaration. Our attorneys have indicated they expect the NMB to rule on the single-carrier petition within a few months of its filing. Once that declaration is made, the NMB will certify the collective bargaining agent for the pilots of the new American Airlines. Absent a significant challenge, the NMB will likely designate APA, as the larger of the two unions, to serve in that capacity. (Under the NMB?s recently amended Merger Procedures, a union must have a showing of interest from 50% of the combined pilot group in order to trigger a representation dispute. APA represents about 66% of the projected 15,000 pilots, so a challenge is unlikely."

 

[FlyUnder]

It will go away after the representation vote. Far away!:beer:

USAPA has deluded itself into thinking it is relevant or will play any part in the SLI.

You are wrong.

 

[ackattacker]

It will go away after the representation vote. Far away!:beer:

USAPA has deluded itself into thinking it is relevant or will play any part in the SLI.

Federal law absolutely requires that USAPA plays a part in the SLI integration. APA can become the bargaining agent for other purposes, but USAPA will stick around until the SLI is complete. This much is 100% clear.

You seem so giddy to see the end of USAPA that you appear to want APA to represent you in a seniority list integration with ... APA. Ask the TWA guys how that worked out for them.

 

[vetrider]

At list usapa is impotent. Couldn't even steam roll a bunch of desert dirt bags(I are one) in 6 years.

 

[Tweaker]

ackattacker

And THAT is why he is on the IGNINT list. When you quote him, you destroy that function, and a puppy is castrated somewhere.