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flynines said:
I was told that 17ish (maybe 18) folks would be in the class. Hope y'all get called soon! Need crashpad roomies ;)

Are all of these 17-18 people in the 19 Jun MD-11 class "new hires" out of the pool...or are they mixing in some current pilots who are upgrading too?

Any idea on how many more MD-11 new hire classes and/or the # of new hires to go to the MD-11 this summer?

Originally on this message board, it appeared the general consensus was a "total need" of about 68 new hires in the MD-11 to Anchorage with classes starting every 2-3 weeks.

How far in advance have people been getting called to reaccomplish their drug tests and update their physicals, before getting the actual call offering a class date?

It appears the class date notifications are happening about 2-3 wks prior to the class start date...true??

Mahalo
 
flynines said:
I was told that 17ish (maybe 18) folks would be in the class. Hope y'all get called soon! Need crashpad roomies ;)


Flynines, congrats on the class date. I would love to be there with you. I have heavy, glass, and international time but have not received any calls yet. I think total time is a factor as well. Good luck and thanks for sharing the info.
 
DLax85 said:
Are all of these 17-18 people in the 19 Jun MD-11 class "new hires" out of the pool...or are they mixing in some current pilots who are upgrading too?
Can't help you with much else, but all of these folks in the NEW classes are new-hires out of the pool. Guys who are already on the property and got the Mad Dog to ANC have already gotten their class dates via the training letter.

Those dates, for the most part, seem to be later in the year (ie after all the newbies fill the projected shortage).
 
For anyone who cares, had a M&G with and MD-11 ACP for a bud of mine. One of the last ones being conducted until further notice. Next group of M&Gers to meet an interview board will be around October. Interviews to follow in Nov-Dec for Jan-Feb hires.

Of course, lots of things could change that. If a new contract is signed soon (he gave me a date many of the ACPs believe will happen, but I ain't gonna spread that...it's pretty soon, but I'll believe it when I see it), they are expecting a mass exodus of pilots to retirement, so that could change things. Mentioned possibility of a clean up bid in october. Again, all of that could change tomorrow. In fact, it probably already has changed.
 
MAGNUM!! said:
If a new contract is signed soon...

Winchester, you have been around long enough to know that the only things that move fast around here are the packages! Just look at how many false starts we got on the MOAB. It would be great news if the company could report of a signed contract before the stockholders at the annual meeting on 25 Sep but I am not holding my breath.
 
Would a newhire be eligible for the new contract "signing bonus" if they are on property right before a new CBA is signed?
 
Actually, what we are after is retro pay and not a signing bonus. There are differences. With that being the case, I imagine someone who just got on property would get very little retro pay as retro pay is determined on lost wages since the expiration date of the last contract.
 
MAGNUM!! said:
If a new contract is signed soon (he gave me a date many of the ACPs believe will happen, but I ain't gonna spread that...it's pretty soon, but I'll believe it when I see it), they are expecting a mass exodus of pilots to retirement, so that could change things.

OK, perhaps a dumb question from a "poolie" --- why would a new contract cause a "mass exodus of pilots to retirement"?

Will there be some new incentive to retire early?

Are early pilot retirements somehow beneficial to the company?

Mahalo
 
DLax85 said:
OK, perhaps a dumb question from a "poolie" --- why would a new contract cause a "mass exodus of pilots to retirement"?

Will there be some new incentive to retire early?

Are early pilot retirements somehow beneficial to the company?

Mahalo

I think they are meaning all the older than 60 guys that are wrenching would leave. If they are on property when the new contract is signed they would reap in the new retirement package. So could make a big difference in retirement income for those guys. That would be my guess. Any better answers?
 
DLax85 said:
OK, perhaps a dumb question from a "poolie" --- why would a new contract cause a "mass exodus of pilots to retirement"?

Will there be some new incentive to retire early?

Are early pilot retirements somehow beneficial to the company?

Mahalo

He (ACP) said he knows alot of guys in the 58-60 age range that would retire under a new contract, assuming better retiree health care. Our pension maxes out at 25 years, so if some of the Tiger dudes that have clocked that time but haven't reached 60, they just might be ready to hang it up.
 
A buddy of mine interviewed last week. He was told that aside from the folks being selected for MD-11 FO, if they passed the interview, class dates might be as late as Jan/Feb next year...

Well worth the wait IMHO.
 
Balut said:
A buddy of mine interviewed last week. He was told that aside from the folks being selected for MD-11 FO, if they passed the interview, class dates might be as late as Jan/Feb next year...

Well worth the wait IMHO.

ACP at the M&G also said possibility of classes of 70 for Jul/Aug, but he wondered aloud how the training dept could handle that many. Didn't say what seats/aircraft.
 
MAGNUM!! said:
He (ACP) said he knows alot of guys in the 58-60 age range that would retire under a new contract, assuming better retiree health care. Our pension maxes out at 25 years, so if some of the Tiger dudes that have clocked that time but haven't reached 60, they just might be ready to hang it up.

No Tiger guy reaches the 25 year mark until 2014. 1989+25yrs:(
 
LaidOffAgain said:
I think they are meaning all the older than 60 guys that are wrenching would leave. If they are on property when the new contract is signed they would reap in the new retirement package. So could make a big difference in retirement income for those guys. That would be my guess. Any better answers?

There is nothing on the table that would increase retirement one cent.
 
Anybody else get a call for the Jun 19th class date or is it full already? I guess 12 started Monday and suppose to be 10 every 2 weeks. Any more calls to update the drug test? Patience...............
 
A friend in the nugget MD11 class that started yesterday was told that there would continue to be MD11 ANC classes throughout the summer and that Boeing classes should start in late July. Who knows???
 
A retroactive pay increase would significantly increase the final 5 year average for everybody. That would mean a higher retirement value. That may be why the old dudes are waiting to see what happens.

Maybe they just aren't ready to retire yet. Who knows.

Nothing is factual yet, only opinions.

FJ
 
I'm curious about the latest interview dates that have had their whiz quizzes updated.

Early Jan has had their's updated - anyone from Feb/Mar?

This leads me to think that the first in - first out for the Boeing.....any truth to this?
 
what is the figure on total pool (january forward) new hires with class dates so far? around 25-30 im guessin
 
I know they have shut down the M&G for a while but are they still running interviews for those who have already had their M&G.
 
groggy said:
what is the figure on total pool (january forward) new hires with class dates so far? around 25-30 im guessin

9/10 Feb interview...called 2 weeks ago for test...all 6 in our interview group was called as well

Cheers :rolleyes:
 
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FoxHunter said:
There is nothing on the table that would increase retirement one cent.

Just curious - could you provide sources for the above statement?
 
FDXCapt said:
Just curious - could you provide sources for the above statement?

Sorry, can't provide a source for something that doesn't exist. You can educate me if you have other information.:)
 
FoxHunter said:
Sorry, can't provide a source for something that doesn't exist. You can educate me if you have other information.:)

That's kind of a half answer isn't it.

The association has asked for more in the retirement section(both A and B fund) and the company wants status quo. Unless you have a copy of a TA, wouldn't you agree that the jury is still out on this one? I'm not insisting that it will get better, but I'm not ruling out any improvements.
 

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