Falcon 50ex

[c140]

The Boss-man is looking at up-grading to a Falcon 50ex... What are the pros and cons, any other information on the plane would be appreciated.

Thanks!

 

[BEfly]

B.S.

Quit making S*** up!

 

[c140]

B.S.

Quit making S*** up!

Why would I make this up, come on. What kind of response is that buddy.

 

[WhyFlare]

What an jerk. Is he a Flt Opts beech driver ?

EX is amazing. Burns much less then staight 50. Climb performance is excellent.

 

[ultrarunner]

The 50EX is a great plane. Expensive to maintain, but they don't break much. Built like tanks.

The EX will go 3000nm at .80, no sweat. You'll love the bird.

 

[400A]

B.S.

Quit making S*** up!

If you do not have anything to contribute, JUST SHUT UP!

By th way, your *** make you a real STUD!

 

[c140]

Thanks for the info on the plane... much appreciated

 

[sleepy]

I have been flying the DA-50EX for 4 years now. Overall it is a great aircraft for the money. I have not had many problems with it.

In our fleet of three we have had a few engine failures (the TFE-731-40 engine has some problems with a carbon seal and turbin blades cracking, do some research on that). There is also a problem with leaking Fuel Control Units (I have had that one), failure of the oil bypass valve (expensive to replace because you have to remove an outboard engine to get to it, we had three of those this year for some reason) and a failure in an oil return line that is covered by AD (it cracks and leads to an engine shutdown due to low oil pressure). The problem with this aircraft is really with the engines.

The aircraft itself performs well. Great short field performance, good second segment climb numbers, great range. The cabin is not all that big, the max pax for comfort is 6. Plenty of baggage space (not big enough for skiis though). I made it from KBUR to Atlanta today at M.83, FL 390, burned around 9,000 lbs of fuel, average 40 kt tail wind, 3.5 hours flight time, landed with 4000 lbs of fuel (still had room for 2,000 lbs more fuel if I had needed it), I could have carried 9 pax.

Overall, it is a lot of aircraft for the money.

 

[ultrarunner]

Also to consider c140 is a straight 50 that has been converted to the -4 engine config.

Talk to the folks at Premiere Aircraft. The advantage of this route is you may wind up with an equal performing aircraft for less money.

But there is no free lunch....these will be older airframes that will need other work.

The smart money will likely go with lower time and newer airframes vs. older airframes and higher times.

YMMV.

 

[rumrnr78]

Buy a CL-300. Period. All the best- Rum

 

[CRJCA]

rumrnr78 and that darn challenger 300! hahahahahaha! I agree. Forget the Falcon. Too small. But challengers more $$$ of course. I hear the Legacy can be had for around same price, and man what an aircraft!

 

[rumrnr78]

classic CRJCA!

 

[c140]

That's is very interesting about the engine deal on the plane...

The boss has looked at the cl-300 and the citation X, he seemed to like the fa-50 better... But I don't know.

How about out of those planes, how do they perform out of a hot and high airport?

 

[ultrarunner]

A 50EX is a good hot/high airplane. I suspect a CL 300 is as well, but can't speak for the X.

Be wary of the CL300...while it's a good bird, you have to deal with the Bombardier support network, and it's WAY LESS than stellar.

And right now, if you even want a CL300, you're gonna put out 23+mil for one that occasionally comes on the market...or wait 3 years for one that you order now.

 

[WhyFlare]

Nothing beats the Falcon for hot and high. 3 engines cant be beat. Climbs like a beast. Lose an engine and just keep going. Not an emergency, just an abnormal. 2 SEPERATE pressurizations sys. No chance of CG problems. Shown to fly at MAch .97, not recommended. Good support and resale value. Never had engine problems on EX. Had 2 bad fuel computers on straight 50.

Legacy is loud inside and has a narrow cabin. Its a streched Brasilia 120 Turbo Prop fusalage. Not impressive to fly in. Ask passenger and pilots and you will see. Flt. Opts has them.