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[Jetlink]

No what I'm sayin is that people would rather fly the E170 anyday over the CRJ700/900 E-145XR

That is where this industry is moving to, the 69 XR's your keeping are going to have a hard time finding a home at any other airline because 50 seats are a thing of the past.

Aww yes...the E170...I agree...I also agree that its not a "regional jet." Its about as much a "regional jet" as the 145XR from Houston to Toronto, or as the B757 from Houston to San Antonio...its ignorant and just such an easy, allbeit innaccurate descriptor. I love the term "commuter jet", what the hell is that anyway?

The E170/190 is a cabin class airplane, and without a middle seat, much better than any single isle Boeing.

 

[cybourg10]

I hope they do too. I hope CAL announces tomorrow everything was a big ole joke and nothings changing. I hope that I become a millionaire...

Eagle is at its Scope limit so your little scenario is never going to happen. I won't believe an XJT plane in the red and white until I see that press release issued, oh I dunno, end of summer lets say.

And its not just regional pilots who are starving monkeys...its PILOTS in general.

Just for the record, I hope XJT does find someone to fly their 69 ERJs for, I hope AA recalls and the Eagle guys get a break, I hope every regional out there never puts another guy out on the street.....guys should learn to respect the profession & pilots at the other airlines and not celebrate when one airline takes flying away from another (not that this applies here). Lets not all fight each other to the bottom. And I wouldn't say that mainline pilots are starving monkeys.....just under paid monkeys .

 

[CRJ Skillz]

Will never happenimp:

 

[Metro752]

Lol EMB SKillz

 

[CRJ Skillz]

coincidence, ya think?? but no!

I got more skillz than that fool does and hopefully we can debate about it soon!

FLY ASA!imp:

 

[Swaayze]

First, the rumor is believable. I speculated elsewhere to this effect immediately following the annoucement that XJT would keep the airframes.

Eagle had scheduled more aircraft for delivery but deferred due to high loan rates. The plan for additional flying is shelved somewhere. In addition AA continues to park airplanes, yet with an operating profit and increasing revenues I can't imagine they don't need the seats. If this comes to pass, expect Eagle to park 135's, 140's and/or Saabs (the Saabs were already supposed to be gone by now IIRC), so in reality it will be replacement flying; except the reality is XJT will be replacing AA flying that Eagle previously replaced. All us regionals are "replacement" carriers - so just get over it already!

If this happens it will be very ugly at Eagle.

 

[ERJFO]

Holy crap I love beer!! It makes this thread even more funny. Dude, did you actually read what I wrote. I don't care if you really do work for the bestest regional in whole wide wide world. I have many many friends at Eagle. BOTTOM LINE.... YOU WILL BE LOOKED UPON AS A PILOT GROUP THAT IS TAKING FLYING AWAY FROM THEM......Don't take it personally. If this "rumor" is true, get ready for the slammin bud. Now, back to the beer!!!!!!!

Why should we care? most of those Eagle guys are too old to do anything about it anyway...

But seriously, you can't be labled as a pilot group that "took" flying if your contract in terms of compensation and work rules (QOL) is better than the group you are replacing, I guess we could call that an airline realizing a bad investment and fixing it's problems. And the pilot group you are replacing should be happy they are being replaced because it is the downsizing of the company they bitch about constantly (Read: TSA, MESA, PSA, CHQ, and others) and maybe they can come be FO's somewhere it's actually plesent to work.

 

[Swaayze]

But seriously, you can't be labled as a pilot group that "took" flying if your contract in terms of compensation and work rules (QOL) is better than the group you are replacing

Don't know where you got that idea. It makes no sense.

 

[EMBPILOT1]

Why should we care? most of those Eagle guys are too old to do anything about it anyway...

But seriously, you can't be labled as a pilot group that "took" flying if your contract in terms of compensation and work rules (QOL) is better than the group you are replacing, I guess we could call that an airline realizing a bad investment and fixing it's problems. And the pilot group you are replacing should be happy they are being replaced because it is the downsizing of the company they bitch about constantly (Read: TSA, MESA, PSA, CHQ, and others) and maybe they can come be FO's somewhere it's actually plesent to work.

UMMMMMM what the HELL are you talking about?

 

[B727FA]

Maybe the CHQ 140's will go to CO and the displaced Xjet 140's will replace the CHQ STL AAconn flying?

They can have the STL crap...

 

[BrazPilot]

All you XJT boys don't understand how things work at AMR, but speculating is a legitimate right.
AMR will place an order for E190's and possibly A320's soon. That is the talk at the American Airlines Flight Academy. Even though XJT might be offering a cheap contract, additional 50 seater flying is not on AMR's agenda, well, maybe one route here and another there. But nothing that would even justify let's say... 10 more ERJ's especially from another carrier. Eagle has enough of them. Labor relation problems at Eagle and AA would be too great to justify such a drastic "status quo" change. Both pilot groups would strongly oppose any such deal and EGL ALPA and APA would surely unite against any "giving away" of AMR flying to outsiders. The company (AMR) does not want to slow down it's current financial recovery trend by making employees unhappy, less productive or induce acts such as "well, we'll just stop saving that fuel", or force massive resignations, especially Eagle junior pilots, inducing more recruiting and training costs. Thing would certainly go down hill. AMR may not be the best company out there, but their managers are SMART. Let's face it... If AMR wanted more 50 seaters...they would have already given a contract to Mesa, Chatauquaquaqua (whatever), Skywest or one of those multi-connection colorful airlines a while ago. AMR wants bigger airplanes for "regional" flying.
Anyway...keep on coming more of those rumors. I personally thing XJT will end up selling those ERJ's to some carriers in China and India....
Good luck to ya'll.

 

[DGdaPilot]

By no means is Eagle the best. I enjoy the place, though. But keep in mind, the big reason why Eagle is so much more expensive to operate than TSA, Republica, and XJT is because of our seniority. We've got 20-30 year pilots here. And we're the largest regional in the world (last time I checked...could've changed by now). Put those 2 things together and boom you've already got high overhead. Now we could all go into why there are such senior pilots here, but the more important fact is that as long as the industry keeps sliding, there are gonna be ALOT of life'ers at XJT and Chacockwa. Just watch.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

We'll all find out in a few months whenever the official announcement is made. Until then....who cares? I just don't get the thrill out of these silly rumors that most of you do.

 

[JetLinkin Park]

All you XJT boys don't understand how things work at AMR, but speculating is a legitimate right.........

Dude, your Embry Riddle avatar is awesome!!! Do you got the ring too?

 

[BrazPilot]

Dude, your Embry Riddle avatar is awesome!!! Do you got the ring too?

Fouk yeah!! Did you really fly for FAB?