ExpressJet to fly for....American

[Jetlink]

Can we all step back and remember that this is a HUGE RUMOR!!!!! I mean aren't we also supposed to fly for SWA to Mexico, Restart Braniff, fly point-to-point from MCI, SAN,TUS, SAN, and fly charter operations?? Oh yeah and we are just going to park the jets to piss off CAL, while leasing a few to Aviacsa. Geez.... lets not go crazy here making fiction into fact. I for one hope that Eagle gets ANY new flying, old flying, whatever that AMR decides to pursue.

My only wish is that we find some way to use these planes in such a way that everyone gets to keep their job as long as they want. In addition, I really hope we don't step on any toes while doing it. I know we would be pissed if CAL awarded routes that hadn't ever been flown to CHQ, TSA, Mesa, QXE, whoever.. assuming we were capable of flying. Peace and harmony to all RJ pilots in this GREAT industry!!! And the prop guys too if the gods have time....

Yes...but this is just too much fun

 

[temcgrew]

Peace and harmony to all RJ pilots in this GREAT industry!!! And the prop guys too if the gods have time....

I second that!!

 

[Elusive Napkin]

Yes I know why you guys signed a 16 year contract. To stop the Crandall back and forth with the 5 carriers. You still signed it.

No one is happy about the splitting of the flying. I fly for an airline that Continental created, built, and has used very effectively to remain at the top of the major carriers today. I would rather (much rather) remain the status quo, operate exclusively for CAL, and not have one of those dang blue chickens on my tail eventually...believe you me. I think Eagle should do all of AA's flying, everywhere. I think Comair should have done all of Delta's flying, everywhere. I think ACA should have done all of UA's flying, everywhere...etc.

The point in all of this back and forth...is that you do not have to be the lowest PAID to have the BEST bid (like all of the "other" regional CEO's tend to want you to believe - DCI, Republic, Mesa, Skywest, etc)....I didn't say most inexpensive (because I have no idea what the bids are/were). I am assuming here that AA has a need for, and we have the very marketable 145xr, which no one else operates. Had CHQ had XRs, they might very well have won the flying, if it comes to fruition.

I have no idea what your statement of "the guys from 98 upgraded with 11/2 to 2 years" means.

Our "crying" because of the CHQ bid was about how a lower paid, therefore easily lower bid carrier has won flying that was being flown by a higher paid, better contracted pilot group. It would have been extremely difficult for us to "cry" had a higher paid....ummm, errrr, well if there was a higher paid pilot group taken it...then it would have been hard to biittch.

I honestly think this whole outsourced carrier bidding crap just has to be the worst thing that has ever occured. Main line pilots are to blame for that in all reality due to someones belief that small jets just weren't worth maintaing control over its seniority list.

Dude, seriously lay off the we're the best crap... I mean I love working at XJT as much as the next guy. Yay US!! GO REAM!!!!, etc, etc, etc. However, it wasn't but a few months ago that CMR was the top dog. Observe present day facts.... Catch my drift?? You're a little too cocky.

 

[temcgrew]

The point in all of this back and forth...is that you do not have to be the lowest PAID to have the BEST bid

Our "crying" because of the CHQ bid was about how a lower paid, therefore easily lower bid carrier has won flying that was being flown by a higher paid, better contracted pilot group.

Was that all in one breath?

 

[Elusive Napkin]

Yes...but this is just too much fun

Yeah it is... :beer:



So, you hear about that Bangladesh base?? Shorts-360 Flight Engineer should go junior.

 

[Jetlink]

Yeah it is... :beer:



So, you hear about that Bangladesh base?? Shorts-360 Flight Engineer should go junior.

Dude, we are so first in Iraq its not even funny. CHQ can't get the insurance so I hear. Mesa is all tapped out. That XR should have no trouble eluding those shoulder fired missles.. very little heat signature..I think we will be even HIGHER paid on that bid!

:nuts:

Did I mention that we are the best? The BEST! I love coming to these boards and people taking it SO seriously. Oh, we're the highest paid too.

If thats not cocky enough for you......

 

[USMCAirWinger]

I have no idea what your statement of "the guys from 98 upgraded with 11/2 to 2 years" means.

This is in reference to the statement regarding the "12 years upgrade for the last 10 years".

Our "crying" because of the CHQ bid was about how a lower paid, therefore easily lower bid carrier has won flying that was being flown by a higher paid, better contracted pilot group. It would have been extremely difficult for us to "cry" had a higher paid....ummm, errrr, well if there was a higher paid pilot group taken it...then it would have been hard to biittch.

Don't tell me that BS about you being ok if it had been a higher paid carrier. Yeah right!

The fact is, you guys losing the flying is a legit thing. It sucks, I know, but i don't think Continental is doing anything illegal. Now, if AMR did that to Eagle they would be violating a contract.

 

[Elusive Napkin]

I'll drink to that bud!! I only wish Sadaam were still there. I would find a good spot for the blue juice! Screw it, we ARE the best.... hehehehe

 

[USMCAirWinger]

Did I mention that we are the best? The BEST! I love coming to these boards and people taking it SO seriously. Oh, we're the highest paid too.

If thats not cocky enough for you......

What kind of koolaid are you drinking? By the way I have two good friends at Express Jet and they do not resemble you in any way.

You're such a fag.

 

[hbrow15]

Oh yeah, and guys, I think we should stop bragging about having an industry leading contract... that could all crumble at any given moment. Just be happy that we have what we have, and be humble. In other words, take the high road.

I'm glad someone else said it, this is why I cautined our guys about dogging the CHQ guy's, because if we were successful in placeing the airplanes we would be in the same boat. We as pilot's didn't bid on flying but in our fellow pilot's eye's we are no different than CHQ right now and we can contract this or that, or it's new flying whatever, when you go into what is percieved to be someone else's backyard you will be considered stealing no matter how untrue it maybe, so if this turns out to be true then we should be ready to take some of what our guy's dished our to CHQ, because Eagle guy's will be pissed and will not want to hear any of our reasons why this is not the same as everyone else. How many times is any rumor on here ever turn out to be true? nothing I can think of since the Skywest buying ASA rumor. First ASA was going to get CAL flying, then it was TSA, then someone was buying up a bunch of ERJ sim time because they were getting CAL flying. The SEC might want to talk to whoever gave up this info before an offical announcement, not very smart if you want to avoid being the next Martha Stewart. No disrespect intended, but I'll wait till Jim Ream say's it before I start making plans to upgrade. Again no disrepect intended to my fellow XJTers but guy's let's dial it down a little and let it play out.

 

[Jetlink]

The fact is, you guys losing the flying is a legit thing. It sucks, I know, but i don't think Continental is doing anything illegal. Now, if AMR did that to Eagle they would be violating a contract.

I'm sorry, was I alluding to an illegal activity? No one stated that its not a "legit thing." Its just a "sucky thing."

How in the world would AMR "doing that to Eagle" violate a contract? No one is stating that AMR is doing anything to Eagle. The routes, if they come, are new, due to new equipment.

I never said that I, or anyone else would be "OK" with a higher paid pilot group "taking" our flying. I just said it would be "HARD TO BIITCH ABOUT IT." Come on Marine, keep up with the conversation.

 

[On Your Six]

I wonder what Flight Options and other part-135 Legacy operators (ie Swift Aviation) think about this potential development? Would Coex use its 145s or its 135s for the charter operation?

Certainly would add some route variety for the Coex pilots who get to do the flying... Get ready to shoot approaches at Aspen...

 

[Jetlink]

What kind of koolaid are you drinking? By the way I have two good friends at Express Jet and they do not resemble you in any way.

You're such a fag.

Well I would rather be a fag than a complete and total DUMBASSSSSS.

 

[arthompson]

Why would ACA have to do all of UA's flying? They weren't UAX till the 90's, *AFTER* Air Wisconsin had been bought by United

 

[USMCAirWinger]

I rather be a fag

I won't argue with that.