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bugchaser said:
Now theres an intelligent comment. Hey what about all those chemtrails that all you high flyers are going through all the time?

I knew a guy when I was a kid who was an AG pilot. His wife used to bowl on a team with my mom. The last time I saw him he looked like some creature from a Star Trek movie. Imagine the flakes of crust that a dry lakebed forms shortly after the water has evaporated. That's what his skin looked like, only it was blood red around the flakes.

He spent his last days coughing up blood and lung tissue... The doctors claim it was due to the pesticides he sprayed.

Hardly the same as a "chemtrail".
 
Here it is, directly from aviationinterviews.com

>>Interview experience:
My group had a slightly different experience because the ExpressJet people were down one interviewer. The 13 candidates all sat in a conference room for 45 minutes while Dawn Daniel and another pilot did the logbook/resume review. I wish I could tell you all about the interview, but I was called out before the questions began. Why is an interesting point for applicants: I was told I do not take aviation "seriously" because flying is my "hobby," so no interview for me despite two lovely recommendation letters from Continental pilots. My current full-time job is as a school teacher. I stay current with two planes that I'm partner in (multi and a single), so I even had plenty of IMC and recent experience. Recommendation: if you don't have a full-time flying job you will not be interviewed so don't bother applying. While Ms. Daniel was "polite," it is that obsequeous, customer service politeness. When asked how she determined that I wasn't "serious" about flying when I had more time and experience than many of the applicants in my group, she ignored my question and began the walk out. The other pilot who was immediately rejected was sent home because he used a computer logbook. He printed out the pages for them to review, but since he didn't sign them, he was rejected. I don't believe the general process here is bad, but the recruiting staff needs to express its desires more completely before dragging someone down to Houston. In retrospect I wasted a lot of time and money when that all could have been avoided had I been aware that only people with full-time flying jobs were being accepted. A mark against ExpressJet for poor communication of that fact and the fact that Ms. Daniel suggested that I go get a CFI job for three months and re-apply. That does not show a lot of respect for people trying to run flight school businesses.<<

I can see their point in not wanting to hire someone who doesn't have a full time flying job of anykind. However, they had to of known this before bringing him out to interview, so why on earth would they bring someone out to Houston just to tell him to immediately go home. I'll agree with the applicant that getting a CFI job for 3 months will do nothing to prepare him for an interview.

What does everyone else think??
 
If you are going to interview at ExpressJet, please, please, please, STUDY. I had to watch several people struggle through the interview. I almost felt bad for them. Also, make sure you bring ALL of your logbooks and take 30 seconds and make sure, make da#n sure that your single and multi equal your total. Also do not log Sim as total time. It doesn't work.

I had to watch some 121 guys (mostly Colgan and TSA and Kent state interns) struggle with this interview. One guy actually got told to stop talking. Know your aircraft. SYSTEMS, SYSTEMS, SYSTEMS. If you fly a B1900 you had better know it better than the guy who designed it. One of the interviewers flew the thing for several years. I am taking pitch stops, gas topend governors (I think, I fly piston), ice protection, etc. If you fly a jet burner you had better know how to talk through a V1 cut. Know your alt mims and when you need one.

We had thirteen and I think they called 3. If you want a job apply, there is one more open spot, I had to turn it down due to contractual obligations. $1482 per diem for 75 days of training and then 19.56/hour, you pay uniforms $500 ($300 for jacket) payroll deduct over 24 months w/ 1.40 per diem. 1st year 15 hr call with 2 hr call out, airport stby 5 hrs, 11 days off/month, with 75 hr pay. dues start second year @1.95% gross.

Good company, good people, and they really seemed happy to have new faces. Everybody is pretty much getting the bases they want but you will be reserve most of a full year.

Ignore the previous posts about Dawn being a horrible person. She was great to work with. But, you will be on the bad end of a cold stare if you do not know what you are talking about. Everyone there is great and will treat you great IF you belong there and are not wasting their time.

GOOD LUCK!
 
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A quick clarification about the pay during training. You are on the payroll when you pass your sim check ride, which occurs around the end of week 6, maybe 7, depending on scheduling, etc. So the $1400 is for about 45-50 days of training.
 
Not traying to bash anyone at XJet or their recruiters.

Can someone explain me how someone with "1000 some hours" activily flying a Citation gets hired when that person is asked what a Jet Airway is and doesn't have a clue while others who go well prepared and qualified don't?

What is XJet looking for on a candidate? Do they actually know? Surfing classes help?

PS: Don't ask, I did not interview with XJet, this information is first hand through a good friend of mine.
 
I hope she is treating internal applicants fairly being that she was once an internal applicant herself. People are either going to love her or hate her. That goes with the territory when you work in hiring.

IAHERJ
 
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I have a full time job outside of flying, and I instruct usually about 7 days a week. Although I don't fly full time, my typical weekday involves 5-6 hours around the airport of which 3-4 are flying. On the weekends I'm there first thing in the morning and I leave in the evenings.

I might have an interview at ExpressJet and I would really like to go even if it's just for an interview experience, but I don't want to be sent packing after one glimpse at my resume to see I don't fly full time or it's just a "hobby" as stated above.
 
767200 said:
Not traying to bash anyone at XJet or their recruiters.

Can someone explain me how someone with "1000 some hours" activily flying a Citation gets hired when that person is asked what a Jet Airway is and doesn't have a clue while others who go well prepared and qualified don't?
Simple-The one with the bigger tits was hired.
 
AZaviator said:
Here it is, directly from aviationinterviews.com

>>Interview experience:
I wish I could tell you all about the interview, but I was called out before the questions began. Why is an interesting point for applicants: I was told I do not take aviation "seriously" because flying is my "hobby," so no interview for me despite two lovely recommendation letters from Continental pilots. My current full-time job is as a school teacher. I stay current with two planes that I'm partner in (multi and a single), so I even had plenty of IMC and recent experience. Recommendation: if you don't have a full-time flying job you will not be interviewed so don't bother applying. While Ms. Daniel was "polite," it is that obsequeous, customer service politeness. When asked how she determined that I wasn't "serious" about flying when I had more time and experience than many of the applicants in my group, she ignored my question and began the walk out.

What does everyone else think??

sounds pretty weak to me. people arent born with a full time job, having one previously has nothing to do with your qualifications or seriousness for the job/career your are trying to get. the fact that he is applying for a full time job and that he drug his a$$ all the way over there for the interview should indicate that he is serious about it.

sometimes the spoiled rich kids, who have it all handed to them and can be a "serious pilot" starting at age 16 til whenever they get their airline job, dont understand that sometimes you have to have a real job in order to pay for your own way through your ratings, or even to survive while being an instructor.

to me people who go through that kind of effort..to have a full time job, and still find the extra time at the end of the day or on their day off to pursue aviation is much more serious about it than the kid who's biggest effort is swiping daddy's credit card through the FBO machine.
 
sounds pretty weak to me. people arent born with a full time job, having one previously has nothing to do with your qualifications or seriousness for the job/career your are trying to get. the fact that he is applying for a full time job and that he drug his a$$ all the way over there for the interview should indicate that he is serious about it.

sometimes the spoiled rich kids, who have it all handed to them and can be a "serious pilot" starting at age 16 til whenever they get their airline job, dont understand that sometimes you have to have a real job in order to pay for your own way through your ratings, or even to survive while being an instructor.

to me people who go through that kind of effort..to have a full time job, and still find the extra time at the end of the day or on their day off to pursue aviation is much more serious about it than the kid who's biggest effort is swiping daddy's credit card through the FBO machine.
VERY well said. I used the majority of my salary to pay for my ratings, and I couldn't make it on my CFI pay, even with a wife who pays most of our bills.

The funny thing is, I've spoken with friends at other regionals and they thought my second job would HELP me get a full time flying gig. I'm a teacher as well and they thought that shows a level of maturity and responsibility.

If I get the interview I'm interested to see what might happen. I've been studying my pooper off to make sure I'm well prepared, but I'm not expecting much.
 
I don't know what the deal with everyone bashing Dawn Daniels is. She is a very nice person and I for one haven't had any problems with her. She seems like a very nice person. I think that the only reason that people are bashing her is because they didn't get the job.

Lets remember that she is incharge of hiring hundreds of pilots for ExpressJet and she has been doing this for a while now. I think that she is good at what she does.

Just my .02
Doogie
 
Doogie said:
I don't know what the deal with everyone bashing Dawn Daniels is. She is a very nice person and I for one haven't had any problems with her. She seems like a very nice person. I think that the only reason that people are bashing her is because they didn't get the job.

Lets remember that she is incharge of hiring hundreds of pilots for ExpressJet and she has been doing this for a while now. I think that she is good at what she does.

Just my .02
Doogie
I agree, her profesional image is the reason I am reapplying...

Mooser
 
mooser said:
I agree, her profesional image is the reason I am reapplying...

Mooser
Bravo Man!!! Hope to see you over here soon, if half these guys had your additude I am sure they would be hired. Good luck finding the rest of your actual.

Doogie
 
Mooser: Good luck to you. A good friend of mine just got hired after re-applying. He was shot down the first time he interviewed. Everything went well the second time though.
 

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