Expressjet needs pilots bad!

[767200]

Not traying to bash anyone at XJet or their recruiters.

Can someone explain me how someone with "1000 some hours" activily flying a Citation gets hired when that person is asked what a Jet Airway is and doesn't have a clue while others who go well prepared and qualified don't?

What is XJet looking for on a candidate? Do they actually know? Surfing classes help?

PS: Don't ask, I did not interview with XJet, this information is first hand through a good friend of mine.

 

[IAHERJ]

I hope she is treating internal applicants fairly being that she was once an internal applicant herself. People are either going to love her or hate her. That goes with the territory when you work in hiring.

IAHERJ

 

[EDUC8-or]

I have a full time job outside of flying, and I instruct usually about 7 days a week. Although I don't fly full time, my typical weekday involves 5-6 hours around the airport of which 3-4 are flying. On the weekends I'm there first thing in the morning and I leave in the evenings.

I might have an interview at ExpressJet and I would really like to go even if it's just for an interview experience, but I don't want to be sent packing after one glimpse at my resume to see I don't fly full time or it's just a "hobby" as stated above.

 

[miles otoole]

Not traying to bash anyone at XJet or their recruiters.

Can someone explain me how someone with "1000 some hours" activily flying a Citation gets hired when that person is asked what a Jet Airway is and doesn't have a clue while others who go well prepared and qualified don't?

Simple-The one with the bigger tits was hired.

 

[dash8driver]

Here it is, directly from aviationinterviews.com

>>Interview experience:
I wish I could tell you all about the interview, but I was called out before the questions began. Why is an interesting point for applicants: I was told I do not take aviation "seriously" because flying is my "hobby," so no interview for me despite two lovely recommendation letters from Continental pilots. My current full-time job is as a school teacher. I stay current with two planes that I'm partner in (multi and a single), so I even had plenty of IMC and recent experience. Recommendation: if you don't have a full-time flying job you will not be interviewed so don't bother applying. While Ms. Daniel was "polite," it is that obsequeous, customer service politeness. When asked how she determined that I wasn't "serious" about flying when I had more time and experience than many of the applicants in my group, she ignored my question and began the walk out.

What does everyone else think??

sounds pretty weak to me. people arent born with a full time job, having one previously has nothing to do with your qualifications or seriousness for the job/career your are trying to get. the fact that he is applying for a full time job and that he drug his a$$ all the way over there for the interview should indicate that he is serious about it.

sometimes the spoiled rich kids, who have it all handed to them and can be a "serious pilot" starting at age 16 til whenever they get their airline job, dont understand that sometimes you have to have a real job in order to pay for your own way through your ratings, or even to survive while being an instructor.

to me people who go through that kind of effort..to have a full time job, and still find the extra time at the end of the day or on their day off to pursue aviation is much more serious about it than the kid who's biggest effort is swiping daddy's credit card through the FBO machine.

 

[EDUC8-or]

sounds pretty weak to me. people arent born with a full time job, having one previously has nothing to do with your qualifications or seriousness for the job/career your are trying to get. the fact that he is applying for a full time job and that he drug his a$$ all the way over there for the interview should indicate that he is serious about it.

sometimes the spoiled rich kids, who have it all handed to them and can be a "serious pilot" starting at age 16 til whenever they get their airline job, dont understand that sometimes you have to have a real job in order to pay for your own way through your ratings, or even to survive while being an instructor.

to me people who go through that kind of effort..to have a full time job, and still find the extra time at the end of the day or on their day off to pursue aviation is much more serious about it than the kid who's biggest effort is swiping daddy's credit card through the FBO machine.

VERY well said. I used the majority of my salary to pay for my ratings, and I couldn't make it on my CFI pay, even with a wife who pays most of our bills.

The funny thing is, I've spoken with friends at other regionals and they thought my second job would HELP me get a full time flying gig. I'm a teacher as well and they thought that shows a level of maturity and responsibility.

If I get the interview I'm interested to see what might happen. I've been studying my pooper off to make sure I'm well prepared, but I'm not expecting much.

 

[Doogie]

I don't know what the deal with everyone bashing Dawn Daniels is. She is a very nice person and I for one haven't had any problems with her. She seems like a very nice person. I think that the only reason that people are bashing her is because they didn't get the job.

Lets remember that she is incharge of hiring hundreds of pilots for ExpressJet and she has been doing this for a while now. I think that she is good at what she does.

Just my .02
Doogie

 

[mooser]

I don't know what the deal with everyone bashing Dawn Daniels is. She is a very nice person and I for one haven't had any problems with her. She seems like a very nice person. I think that the only reason that people are bashing her is because they didn't get the job.

Lets remember that she is incharge of hiring hundreds of pilots for ExpressJet and she has been doing this for a while now. I think that she is good at what she does.

Just my .02
Doogie

I agree, her profesional image is the reason I am reapplying...

Mooser

 

[Doogie]

I agree, her profesional image is the reason I am reapplying...

Mooser

Bravo Man!!! Hope to see you over here soon, if half these guys had your additude I am sure they would be hired. Good luck finding the rest of your actual.

Doogie

 

[mmmdonut]

Mooser: Good luck to you. A good friend of mine just got hired after re-applying. He was shot down the first time he interviewed. Everything went well the second time though.

 

[350DRIVER]

I would be willing to bet a large amount of money that John Dresser is probably sipping many martini's present day and laughing his @ss off.

Sad how things can go so downhill in only 7 years.

Time to restore respect to that hiring department, something they had when I completed the COEX/San Jac program quite some time ago.

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[pdkaviator]

Has the interview process at XJT changed? Last post on Aviationinterviews.com talkes about a couple of 2-on-1 interview instead of the 3-on-however many people on the room. Is Dawn still in charge of doing the interviews? I too was shut down but the reason I was given was that the light twin I fly (Be76) doesn't really count as a multiengine airplane (Huuuh??). I wasn't flying full time either, so I think THAT was the real reason, although she never said that. Another guy that only had Be76 time was hired soon after. Overall it was a great experience and Dawn was extremely friendly and professional.

I do not understand why they rather hire a fulltime 600-1 pilot than a P/T 1600-3 pilot. As long as you are flying on a regular basis it shouldn't matter that you are only flying P/T. They must be desperate for pilots...(600/1)

 

[Whiskerbizkit]

The hiring at Express has changed in the last 5 years. I remember flying with FO's with 500TT. Its sad if the stories are true about Dawn, I remember when she was hired which was NOT that long ago, she was a flight attendent before and am sure her multi time was not in anything more than a light twin.