Expressjet growing?

[79%N1]

Line bidding BITES! That said, ExpressJets swapping rules, etc are better than what ASA has. Pref Bidding buries line bidding as a pairing delivery method. That said, the only way to have so much open time left over is to have less guys receiving hard lines (i.e more guys on reserve) That would be a hard sell over on the ASA side.

 

[Freebrd]

bingo!

 

[Nevets]

Line bidding BITES! That said, ExpressJets swapping rules, etc are better than what ASA has. Pref Bidding buries line bidding as a pairing delivery method. That said, the only way to have so much open time left over is to have less guys receiving hard lines (i.e more guys on reserve) That would be a hard sell over on the ASA side.

You guys really need to be educated on our line bidding and work rules! Too bad your MEC isn't open minded to even learn about our system (like ours is doing), much less educating you guys. Who is being u reasonable?

 

[dojetdriver]

Let me help you out here to better state what you meant to say;

The way ASA had line bidding, all I can say is Line bidding BITES! However, since I've NEVER used the XJT line bid work rule system, my arguments and opinions of the XJT way are based solely on ignorance and not educating myself. That said, ExpressJets swapping rules, etc are better than what ASA has. Pref Bidding buries line bidding as a pairing delivery method. That said, the only way to have so much open time left over is to have less guys receiving hard lines (i.e more guys on reserve) That would be a hard sell over on the ASA side. However, since the XJT pairing generator created way more efficient pairings than we've seen as of yet, ASA reserve numbers went up. So basically, BOTH systems can create more pilots on reserve. SO it really doesn't matter

There, fixed it for ya'

 

[79%N1]

No...but thanks. I stand by my original statement. Line bidding bites. Who wants to sit and look through hundreds on lines, scanning every pairing, etc. I like the way PBS works and the flexibility of it. But thanks for the edit.

 

[Plainsman]

I like looking trip by trip. Don't enjoy a plate full of potluck.

 

[777forever]

I like looking trip by trip. Don't enjoy a plate full of potluck.

ASA's PBS is anything but potluck, and 1,700 pilots can vouch for that.

 

[nerjdriver]

ASA's PBS is anything but potluck, and 1,700 pilots can vouch for that.

No they won't. 2500+ pilots plus a handful of yours will vouch for that. Nice try.

 

[Baronman]

Pref bidding could be the greatest thing...XJTers resist change...period. Every change is perceived as worse.

 

[crazy8]

Pref bidding could be the greatest thing...XJTers resist change...period. Every change is perceived as worse.

I only resist change if the change is worse than what I have now. Pref biding is worse than what I have now, so yeah, I'm going to resist.

 

[BOX OFFICE]

Is it true that with the ExpressJet line bidding, only 50% of the pilots are awarded actual lines, then another 20% get relief lines and the rest are on reserve?

 

[princeton]

No...but thanks. I stand by my original statement. Line bidding bites. Who wants to sit and look through hundreds on lines, scanning every pairing, etc. I like the way PBS works and the flexibility of it. But thanks for the edit.

Hardly anyone scans through the lines, there's an automatic line ordering tool that selects the lines according to your preferences. I haven't bid in years, I just let "Ad-opt" do the work. Sometimes I check the results to see if it's really giving me what I want.

That said, since XJT MEC is open to look at other options, they've being looking at different PBS systems. I understand that the PBS system they liked the most is NOT the ASA system which I understand is crap. XJT is going to introduce that PBS system (not ASA's one) on a TRIAL basis for reserve/relief line bidding soon.

 

[princeton]

Is it true that with the ExpressJet line bidding, only 50% of the pilots are awarded actual lines, then another 20% get relief lines and the rest are on reserve?

It's 70-75% with hard lines, 15% with relief lines (which are also hard lines that you can trip-trade but they're not awarded until the third week of the month prior as opposed to the end of the first week which is typical for hard lines).

Historically only 10% hold reserve but the company is trying to increase that to 20% with all the hiring etc.

 

[Freebrd]

hey let's adapt the best of each! I'm open to ExJet's if it's an improvement over PBS, but I do like PBS over the old line bidding crap at ASA, and i'm not one of the 1700 that 777 writes about, clueless that he/she is fo sure

 

[wms]

Hardly anyone scans through the lines, there's an automatic line ordering tool that selects the lines according to your preferences. I haven't bid in years, I just let "Ad-opt" do the work. Sometimes I check the results to see if it's really giving me what I want.

That said, since XJT MEC is open to look at other options, they've being looking at different PBS systems. I understand that the PBS system they liked the most is NOT the ASA system which I understand is crap. XJT is going to introduce that PBS system (not ASA's one) on a TRIAL basis for reserve/relief line bidding soon.

Actually the ASA system is probably the best. DAL, swa and others have been looking at it. But it still doesn't match up to Expressjet's line bidding.