Evergreen updates?

[pilotgolfer]

A friend of mine says he's in a class starting in January.

I didn't think Ben had any friends??

 

[CaptSeth]

I didn't think Ben had any friends??

Must've slipped between the cracks....

 

[TNPILOT]

Yr 1= $53
Yr 2= $56
Yr 3= $59

On a 65 hour guarantee,some serious furlough potential, and a management that throws the contract out the window (see international business or better grievance)? No thanks.

 

[Zoneload]

Well you have a job so stay where you are at..The Business class travel is back..

 

[Victor Meldrew]

Well you have a job so stay where you are at..The Business class travel is back..

Thats one thing I miss about EZ - 10 hours of flying and 40+ hours of business flights around the world chasing aircraft in a month!! Still using the airmiles!

The pay may not be all that good but I will say the guy's you fly with are some of the best (professionally and socially) you'll find out there.

 

[ABUSED PILOT]

Stay in your light twin. Any job flying in this economy is a good one. The phone up in Mickeyville is ringing off the hook. Evergreen is what you make it. I enjoy the job,and from what I see flying around the world. Its the same BS at every airline.

 

[spitfire1500]

Yr 1= $53
Yr 2= $56
Yr 3= $59

On a 65 hour guarantee,some serious furlough potential, and a management that throws the contract out the window (see international business or better grievance)? No thanks.

Business or better never went away outside of the US and the domestic coast to coast and PANC was gone for a month. I was a checkairman on that Taco Rocket your flying and left for Evergreen 3 years ago....glad I did!

 

[TNPILOT]

Stay in your light twin. Any job flying in this economy is a good one. The phone up in Mickeyville is ringing off the hook. Evergreen is what you make it. I enjoy the job,and from what I see flying around the world. Its the same BS at every airline.

Agreed, the flying sounds incredible. It's a good opportunity for the right person.

spitfire1500, I'm not knocking your job. I think we can all agree that Evergreen is such a unique job that it is certainly not for everyone. There's a lot of risk associated with it and I don't think the schedule is conducive to the family life that I want. Some can accept that, some can't. I have every intention of eventually leaving my current employer when the right opportunity comes around. It's not a bad place to ride out the current economy. Glad to hear the arbitrator sided with you guys on the travel, seemed like a no brainer to me.

Bottom line I didn't want to take an interview slot (knowing I wouldn't take the job) from someone who genuinely wants and or needs the work. I wish you guys the best and will gladly go to JFK or wherever and do some walking for the contract that you guys deserve if it ever comes to that.

 

[Mr.B]

Business or better never went away outside of the US and the domestic coast to coast and PANC was gone for a month. I was a checkairman on that Taco Rocket your flying and left for Evergreen 3 years ago....glad I did!

Thread drift.....are you guys at MGTOW when you have that jet full of 787 fuselage?

 

[FearlessFreep]

Just remember if you are coming off a RJ to a Classic 74 you are making a major leap backwards. There is also all the Overseas Ops stuff you will have to catch up on. You will be drinking from a fire hose and trying to catch up on a whole different type of operation.

Going from a RJ glass cockpit to the Classic is a bigger jump than going from the Classic to any glass cockpit.

If you have a fair amount of single pilot freight time in your past you will probably have no problem adapting to the Classic. If most of your flying experience is in the RJ your going to be in for a big surprise.

ACMI operations are a big difference from scheduled ops in an RJ. The trips are filled with lots of schedule changes, very long days and flights. Most of the smaller ACMI companies think of labor contracts as something of a joke. It is a continual fight to get management to comply. If you have a family are they prepared for you not to be home for close to 15+ days in a row?

I don't know what the situation is at Evergreen is now, but they have a reputation of being pretty tough and not very tolerant in their training program. You would have to definitely be on your "A" game the whole time.

If you take the risk and it does not work out you could be stuck without a job.

Things are pretty iffy in these economic times, if you have any seniority at your current job you would be better to stick it out there till times get better.

 

[propsarebest]

Thread drift.....are you guys at MGTOW when you have that jet full of 787 fuselage?

Nope, but the LCF has a very SMALL C.G. area when loaded.

 

[blingair]

Has anyone recently got a call to interview or does anyone have any information about interview dates? I have an internal recommendation but haven't heard anything yet. Standing by to stand.

 

[pilotgolfer]

Has anyone recently got a call to interview or does anyone have any information about interview dates? I have an internal recommendation but haven't heard anything yet. Standing by to stand.

From what I could tell, they are holding interviews on Thursdays with 2 or 3 guys at each session. They plan on hiring about 40 FOs thru November. There was a class of 4 on Jan 4th and a few of them interviewed in early December. The Feb 1st class of 4 has at least one guy that interviewed the week before Xmas. So they have about 32 more people they are planning on hiring. It seems the constraint is availability of instructors or LCAs. I think thats why the classes are small and limited to 1 per month.

They think they are going to run out of classic FOs who will bid the 400 for whatever reasons. They want to avoid putting new hires in the 400, but it may have to happen in July give or take. 3 to 6 400s to be delivered this year. I think they said the first few airplanes were going to be additional air frames and at some point they would start doing a one for one replacement of the 200s. I don't know how long the timeline was gonna be on that. I vaguely remember them saying that the Classics would be around another 6 years or so (don't recall).

 

[propsarebest]

Looks like the schoolhouse is going to be open till at least Sept.

We will be VERY short on classic FO's next month. With the 3rd LCF arriving and the first -400 freighter (notice I didn't say BCF) arriving early march.

 

[blingair]

Thanks for the information. Do you know if they are hiring for aircraft or attitude? What I mean is are they looking for guys with wide body time or are guys like me who have mainly large turboprop time being called to interview? I was hoping my internal reference would help but I haven't heard from anybody yet.