Evergreen updates?

[onewithwings]

Trust me you don't want to fly for Evergreen. Don't get me wrong, there are some very good people there and I enjoyed the work. Unless there are current contracts flying is scarce. I've seen furloughs go very deep!

 

[ABUSED PILOT]

There is no such thing as a sure thing. If you need a job, go for it. There are alot worse out there. Evergreen has its problems, but its not all that bad.

 

[spitfire1500]

There is no such thing as a sure thing. If you need a job, go for it. There are alot worse out there. Evergreen has its problems, but its not all that bad.

Funnest flying I've ever done! QOL compared to other similar carriers not bad (business class or better commercialing 16 on, 14 or 15 off, Vacation.. you get a month off,) pay not very good though compared to similar carriers and you could get 32 days flying in a row if you're not careful, but on the other hand you can also get a month off and if you bid vacation time right that can end up as 2 months off. When I left my last position (which was pretty descent) my apps were to these kinds of carriers (Atlas / Polar, ATI, ABX...etc) so I could experience a few years seeing the world on someone elses dime (or should I say nickel ) and acquire some heavy international experience. This type of flying isn't for everyone...I've seen guys quit after a few months and others love it and never want to go back to the grind of flying "self loading cargo" doing 3 days on 2 days off and going to beautiful places like Harrisburgh, Pa.!
The last point I will; make about Evergreen that is most important....Don't be in the bottom 10% of the seniority list in Jan!! This year is an exception but most years Jan things slow to a halt until about April and the seniority list is shrunk to correspond.

 

[spitfire1500]

Trust me you don't want to fly for Evergreen. Don't get me wrong, there are some very good people there and I enjoyed the work. Unless there are current contracts flying is scarce. I've seen furloughs go very deep!

All the flying is pretty much long term contracts (Boeing, US military and now the Chinese authorizations for Shanghai)..that is one thing that EZ seems to do right.

 

[LAZYB]

Is snail mail or fax the only way to submit a resume?

Haven't found any email addresses?

 

[Victor Meldrew]

Is snail mail or fax the only way to submit a resume?

Haven't found any email addresses?

Get someone on the inside to deliver your application / resume along with your copy sent also by you to:

Attn: Recruiter
3850 Three Mile Lane
McMinnville, OR 97128

 

[LAZYB]

ok

Thanks

 

[propsarebest]

Word is that we are hiring 30-40 people...

 

[Junkflyer]

A friend of mine says he's in a class starting in January.

 

[propsarebest]

Sounds like classes every month till September.

 

[pilotgolfer]

A friend of mine says he's in a class starting in January.

I didn't think Ben had any friends??

 

[CaptSeth]

I didn't think Ben had any friends??

Must've slipped between the cracks....

 

[TNPILOT]

Yr 1= $53
Yr 2= $56
Yr 3= $59

On a 65 hour guarantee,some serious furlough potential, and a management that throws the contract out the window (see international business or better grievance)? No thanks.

 

[Zoneload]

Well you have a job so stay where you are at..The Business class travel is back..

 

[Victor Meldrew]

Well you have a job so stay where you are at..The Business class travel is back..

Thats one thing I miss about EZ - 10 hours of flying and 40+ hours of business flights around the world chasing aircraft in a month!! Still using the airmiles!

The pay may not be all that good but I will say the guy's you fly with are some of the best (professionally and socially) you'll find out there.

 

[ABUSED PILOT]

Stay in your light twin. Any job flying in this economy is a good one. The phone up in Mickeyville is ringing off the hook. Evergreen is what you make it. I enjoy the job,and from what I see flying around the world. Its the same BS at every airline.

 

[spitfire1500]

Yr 1= $53
Yr 2= $56
Yr 3= $59

On a 65 hour guarantee,some serious furlough potential, and a management that throws the contract out the window (see international business or better grievance)? No thanks.

Business or better never went away outside of the US and the domestic coast to coast and PANC was gone for a month. I was a checkairman on that Taco Rocket your flying and left for Evergreen 3 years ago....glad I did!

 

[TNPILOT]

Stay in your light twin. Any job flying in this economy is a good one. The phone up in Mickeyville is ringing off the hook. Evergreen is what you make it. I enjoy the job,and from what I see flying around the world. Its the same BS at every airline.

Agreed, the flying sounds incredible. It's a good opportunity for the right person.

spitfire1500, I'm not knocking your job. I think we can all agree that Evergreen is such a unique job that it is certainly not for everyone. There's a lot of risk associated with it and I don't think the schedule is conducive to the family life that I want. Some can accept that, some can't. I have every intention of eventually leaving my current employer when the right opportunity comes around. It's not a bad place to ride out the current economy. Glad to hear the arbitrator sided with you guys on the travel, seemed like a no brainer to me.

Bottom line I didn't want to take an interview slot (knowing I wouldn't take the job) from someone who genuinely wants and or needs the work. I wish you guys the best and will gladly go to JFK or wherever and do some walking for the contract that you guys deserve if it ever comes to that.

 

[Mr.B]

Business or better never went away outside of the US and the domestic coast to coast and PANC was gone for a month. I was a checkairman on that Taco Rocket your flying and left for Evergreen 3 years ago....glad I did!

Thread drift.....are you guys at MGTOW when you have that jet full of 787 fuselage?

 

[FearlessFreep]

Just remember if you are coming off a RJ to a Classic 74 you are making a major leap backwards. There is also all the Overseas Ops stuff you will have to catch up on. You will be drinking from a fire hose and trying to catch up on a whole different type of operation.

Going from a RJ glass cockpit to the Classic is a bigger jump than going from the Classic to any glass cockpit.

If you have a fair amount of single pilot freight time in your past you will probably have no problem adapting to the Classic. If most of your flying experience is in the RJ your going to be in for a big surprise.

ACMI operations are a big difference from scheduled ops in an RJ. The trips are filled with lots of schedule changes, very long days and flights. Most of the smaller ACMI companies think of labor contracts as something of a joke. It is a continual fight to get management to comply. If you have a family are they prepared for you not to be home for close to 15+ days in a row?

I don't know what the situation is at Evergreen is now, but they have a reputation of being pretty tough and not very tolerant in their training program. You would have to definitely be on your "A" game the whole time.

If you take the risk and it does not work out you could be stuck without a job.

Things are pretty iffy in these economic times, if you have any seniority at your current job you would be better to stick it out there till times get better.