Europe to the US in a light jet

[LXApilot]

Gentleman,

I may have a trip coming up to pick up a stranded N registered CE-550 in the EU and bring it home to the States.

The airplane has a single FMS, Collins Pro Line II 3 tube EFIS, dual VHF, NO HF radios.

Any and all recommendations or advise for operating the airplane one way from Europe to the States? Visas, flight planning, regulatory requirements, etc.? I'm going to have to do my homework on this one and figured that you could all help me get started.

Thanks,
CK

 

[BoilerUP]

Probably attend an international procedures school ASAP...and use Universal and/or Air Routing for handling.

Other than that, blue spruce routes? EINN-BIKF-BGBW-CYYR/CYYT/CYQX-northeast US

 

[pilot error]

Probably attend an international procedures school ASAP...and use Universal and/or Air Routing for handling.

Other than that, blue spruce routes? EINN-BIKF-BGBW-CYYR/CYYT/CYQX-northeast US

what he said.

 

[bizjet800]

what he said.

What they said.

I haven't been to an international procedures class at FSI or SF, but I hear they aren't really worth it. Take the northern route, carry plenty of fuel, a good raft and have someone do your flightplanning (Colt, Jepp, Global, Universal...etc.) and you'll do fine.

 

[filejw]

What they said.

I haven't been to an international procedures class at FSI or SF, but I hear they aren't really worth it. Take the northern route, carry plenty of fuel, a good raft and have someone do your flightplanning (Colt, Jepp, Global, Universal...etc.) and you'll do fine.

And read the back of the North Atlantic Jepp chart on getting a oceanic clearance and position reporting. Think there is some good stuff in the AIM too.

 

[bizjet800]

Are you technically on an oceanic clearance if you are not on the tracks?

 

[X man]

ferry flight

Take the northern "Blue Spruce routes" allows you to stay on the VHF radio, sounds like the aircraft is non RVSM so plan accordingly. Fuel stop in Reykjavik maybe(probably spelled it wrong), there are two airports that ferry pilots use in Iceland, the other is starts with a K ends with a vik also. Maybe Shannon, Ireland, to fuel stop to Gander or Goose Bay.

Good Luck

 

[jonjuan]

Why was it stranded?

 

[pilot error]

Are you technically on an oceanic clearance if you are not on the tracks?

if you are in oceanic aispace, yes.

Take the northern "Blue Spruce routes" allows you to stay on the VHF radio, sounds like the aircraft is non RVSM so plan accordingly. Fuel stop in Reykjavik maybe(probably spelled it wrong), there are two airports that ferry pilots use in Iceland, the other is starts with a K ends with a vik also. Maybe Shannon, Ireland, to fuel stop to Gander or Goose Bay.

Good Luck

the other airport in iceland you were refering to is- keflavik, bikf.

not knowing the range of the ce-550, i'm guessing the route would be- where ever uk- bikf- bgbw (narsarsuaq)- where ever canada.

lxapilot- have you done any crossings before?

here is a good place to start reading. a lot of it is basic, but there is some good info in there-

www.nat-pco.org/nat/CurrentNAT%20IGA.doc

same info, but not in a word document-

http://origin.www.faa.gov/airports_airtraffic/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/NAO/NAOTOC.htm

 

[LXApilot]

Anyone have any idea regarding visa requirements, etc?

 

[LXApilot]

By the way- this is great information- I really do appreciate all of your feedback and recommendations

 

[pilot error]

By the way- this is great information- I really do appreciate all of your feedback and recommendations

shouldn't need one for any of those places, unless you swing by france while you are over there.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

I'm guessing you will be SIC on the trip? or at least going w someone who has done this before?

Its not really rocket science, but that plane and those routes may not be the best way to make your first crossing as PIC...

and as the other guy said, I'd be more concerned about why its stranded and what kind of operation was running it prior...theres many questions...from is it simply airworthy to does it have a customs decal?

Visas? nah...but brush up on canpass and EAPIS.

Talk to some handlers, but dont simply rely on a Universal etc as the final word..they have recently completely botched some simple trips for us and we are now using a small handler for needs and use ARINC for 90% of our Intl stuff ourselves...much easier.

nothing particularly difficult about this, but planning makes it all happen.

enjoy!

 

[j3driver]

By the way- this is great information- I really do appreciate all of your feedback and recommendations

Being a us citizen there are no visa requirements (unless the plane is stuck outside of the European Union). I have done the trip in a 550 and it is very easy but there are a few things to remember. First off you cannot just hop in an airplane and fly across the North Atlantic. You need to have completed a training program as per transport of Canada (although I am not sure if everyone actually does and no one checks). At the very least you will need to learn the basics about picking up oceanic clearances and such. I know your not going across the tracks but you still have to get an oceanic clearance! Once you do it once you will find it very easy but learning before you go will make your flight go a lot smoother. I sent you a private message if you have any questions let me know and I will help you the best I can.

 

[filejw]

Visa ? If you are flying for hire into France you may need a visa...