Embry-Riddle and G O Jet, Stop the bleeding.

[BoilerUP]

I'm still waiting to see a copy of the tenative agreement GoJet supposedly reached not too long ago...

 

[redbook]

. You must always act in your own best interest (the American Way), not on the emotions of others. There are plenty of regionals hiring, choose wisely. Considerations include: working conditions, pay, equipment, seniority, maintenance, domicile. Emotions and fear are not on my list. Good luck !

Join an alter ego and you are only working in Hulas' best interest, not yours.

You will figure that out soon. Too late for you.

 

[Terrain Terrain]

Hi redbook, Tarzan, Paddlelhigh, CaptEtWes, etc.,
Thank you for your rendition of "the ignorant regional pilot" opera. You are a true blessing to your gene pool. PSA's MEC was very correct to reject the reciprocal jumpseat agreement if it did not go through them. For the record ALPA national does not have a no GJ jumpseat policy (I recommend, if you are truly adamant, you organize and demand ALPA national join your cause). In the future try not to be so sneaky about which ALPA you are talking about. There is a big difference. When you have an opportunity ask any TSA pilot why they did not transfer to GJ when the opportunity was presented to them (I understand there is still the opportunity for any TSA pilot to transfer when there are openings). Would it not have been better for them to transfer to GJ in large numbers, control the union, and the rest would be elementary. Whoever runs there MEC needs there head examined. Now a little advise for you career Regional pilots, I realize you are in a dead end job with working conditions not to die for, but until you make the decision to upgrade your thinking (not you anger) you are destined to remain where you are. Paddlehigh, it maybe too late for you. I think you are destined to join redbook as a emb-lifer. Here in HR we pride ourselves on weeding you people out. This is a major reason pilots were largely removed form the hiring process. Again I recommend you study your FAR's, AIM, and as much CRM information you can get your hands on. Last, but not least, any young pilot listening to these guys need to get advice somewhere else. These guys got axes to grind and are not functioning with full decks. You must always act in your own best interest (the American Way), not on the emotions of others. There are plenty of regionals hiring, choose wisely. Considerations include: working conditions, pay, equipment, seniority, maintenance, domicile. Emotions and fear are not on my list. Good luck !

Nice rant, but hojet pilots suck and so does hojet "HR"

the end...

 

[HA25]

Great way to start a career and begin to repay $150,000 in debt... Join a "scab" airline and end your career there capped our at $70K/yr..

Heck, if anyone is stupid enough to do it, let them at it..

 

[Muppets]

I have to beleive the kids at ERAU know about Hojets..many have brothers, sisters, Dads, etc. already in the industry. If the faculty at UND denied Hojets (all the way up in ND) then I can only hope that ERAU knows about the Scabbies.

 

[tjsatter]

I'm still waiting to see a copy of the tenative agreement GoJet supposedly reached not too long ago...

I heard something pertinent to this the other day. It seems that, yes, they did get "block or better" HOWever it is not "Block or Better: per segment BUT per month. i.e they are screwed. they ain'y gonna see it. They are getting paid LESS to fly a 70 seat a/c into ORD than we get fr for a 50 seater. Also, some of their delivery options on the CRJs have been sold to Mesa and it is reported that the CRJ is a maintenence POS. Ya get what you pay for. TSA/H would have been so far ahead by now had they gone with the EMB-170 AND a common pilot group. Further rumours of a bankruptcy filing for TSA-INC before we see a contract

 

[greg52083]

They must call it Riddle because it is such a mystery to them how their students can continiue to fall for such a joke.

You just don't get it. My response was about none of those things you mentioned. By the tone of your post I would say you are somewhere in phase two of a riddle grad. The phase where they are just starting to really question their decision to go to riddle, but are still defending it because they spent so much money. The career is not what they where told it was at admissions. You are starting to feel bamboozled, hoodwinked but you are still in denial because it had to be worth it, right? I mean you went to riddle, and your resume goes into a different stack, right? Your license looks different than mine right? I mean it shoud be F-ing gold plated for what you paid, because for what it cost me, mine is just plastic.

The point was, dumbass, that it is really ironic for a bunch of financially retarded riddle people to be organizing against GJ to "stop the bleeding" when they are holding the dang knife.

Just keep telling yourself like a mantra....Riddle was right for me, riddle was right for me.....

Enjoy the student loan.

It's a shame all you think about is money. It's also a shame that I have nothing better to do on a layover but respond to you. If only FI was less adicting. Its like crack for pilots.

 

[HA25]

It's a shame all you think about is money.

It's more a shame that too many "professional pilots" don't...

 

[Golden Falcon]

Then why doesnt ALPA pull their fingers out and go do some "orientation" seminars at these universities...

 

[motch]

I posted on another thread about the same point.. why doesn't ALPA teach young Aviators about the industry. This is something that needs to be taught at the college level and at the CFI schools/AirInc seminars.

We as line pilots have a duty to build on what the pilots before us set in stone. When a pilot, be it a newbie FO or an experienced Capt Newhire; goes to work for a company who's sole goal is to destory an exsisting union.... there's a problem.

Don't get me wrong...., we live in America.. Capitalism rules... But there's also Right and Wrong.

I challenge any G0J3TS pilot to tell me they went there as a career and NOT to get on with a Major sooner, thereby circumventing TSA pilots hard work.

Fly Safe, Fly your Contract and Fly Professionally
Motch

PS> I resigned my position within the ALPA Leadership due to ALPA Nationals lack of resolve against G0J3TS.

 

[dollacrackho]

Ok Looks real, But this is still not national ALPA's position. We all know that sometimes a local union will veer off on their own. Which does not make it right. I predict that even the PSA local ALPA will back away from this position in time.

theo if you do work for gojets could you please make me understand the thought process one goes through when deciding to go for that airline.
don't want to bash you just curious.

 

[I Hate Freight]

While you are at it, you should try to stop people from going to Auburn also.

Or Embry Riddle for that matter.

 

[HA25]

Then why doesnt ALPA pull their fingers out and go do some "orientation" seminars at these universities...

If you think these U's are interested in ALPA, you're being too logical.. no I'll bet that ALPA would not be welcome to talk on the campus about the downward wage pressures caused by the pilot labor market situation in this country. I am still convinced that on one side, we have Airlines, the ATA, Flight Training Academy's, and places like Air Inc, and on the other side is the Pilot.

 

[Beanie]

It's a shame all you think about is money. It's also a shame that I have nothing better to do on a layover but respond to you. If only FI was less adicting. Its like crack for pilots.

You don't know what I F-ing think. When posting on a board about pilot training and regional careers, what the h*ll do you want to talk about? Your favorite color? It is a shame you blew your wad at riddle.

 

[PCL_128]

ALPA does go to Air Inc fairs and Riddle career days. One problem, however, is staffing the booth for every event. ALPA staffers usually don't have the time and pilot volunteers are hard to come by. If you're an ALPA pilot and would like to get involved in these sorts of things, then please PM me and I'll get you in touch with the right people in Herndon so you can work the booth and educate our future pilots.