Embry-Riddle and G O Jet, Stop the bleeding.

[COOPERVANE]

This latest generation seems to be the FIRST that never grows out of the teenage notion that they know more than their parents/elders. Most of us older types listened to people who know.

You Gen=X+ guys just know it all don't you?

By the way you are being called the ENTITLEMENT generation. No values/morals/work ethics. just give me what I want NOW!!

Have fun!

 

[Beanie]

Shrek, that was really, really funny. A sore.

 

[Beanie]

1st
You seem to miss the whole degree thing. The price of college is pretty uniform across the country. You keep comparing the price of a 4 year degree to the price of flying at an FBO. There are many students at ERAU that fly at surrounding for their flight training. Besides that fact, the price for renting the airplane at Riddle is pretty competitive for a new a/c. The price for the instructor is a different story.

2nd
I don't see a lot of state colleges jumping on the aviation band wagon and buying fleets of a/c. Those who are lucky enough to come from states that have aviation programs are very fortunate. If you look at out-of-state tuition for state colleges that have aviation programs, they are just as expensive as Riddle.

3rd
Its absolutely none of your business where people go to college. If I wanted to pay a million bucks to go to college, that’s my right. Sorry we don’t live in a communist nation.

They must call it Riddle because it is such a mystery to them how their students can continiue to fall for such a joke.

You just don't get it. My response was about none of those things you mentioned. By the tone of your post I would say you are somewhere in phase two of a riddle grad. The phase where they are just starting to really question their decision to go to riddle, but are still defending it because they spent so much money. The career is not what they where told it was at admissions. You are starting to feel bamboozled, hoodwinked but you are still in denial because it had to be worth it, right? I mean you went to riddle, and your resume goes into a different stack, right? Your license looks different than mine right? I mean it shoud be F-ing gold plated for what you paid, because for what it cost me, mine is just plastic.

The point was, dumbass, that it is really ironic for a bunch of financially retarded riddle people to be organizing against GJ to "stop the bleeding" when they are holding the damn knife.

Just keep telling yourself like a mantra....Riddle was right for me, riddle was right for me.....

Enjoy the student loan.

 

[Tarzan]

Never really got the Training in brand new airplanes.

I did it a/c that were twenty years old. Funny thing is, my licenses looked the same as they guy in new aiplanes.

 

[VeeOne]

You ERAU grads are silly little children that know absolutely nothing about the airlines and how they work so for you to post threads knocking any regional makes me laugh. Grow up, is all I have to say. What you hear is what is programed into your stupid little minds, and p.s. I am an ERAU grad and wish I would never had the chance to go and make a $150000 mistake to go and take there crap of promises to "bypass the regionals" wich I am sure you all heard. So, in closing, keep your mouth shut and your mind open because tomorrow,more then likely, the next regional is going to be bad mouthed.

I call your bluff on your being an ERAU grad. I would be willing to guess that you were one of the 75% that either dropped out due to poor academic performance or lack of cash. Either way- your attitude doesn't reflect that of true Alumni. Hey- hope you are really happy with the job you've got now; I've just read above why you won't move on to another carrier- your attitude. Now, go cry on your mom's shoulder about us ERAU grads and all of our injustices.......GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!!

Oh, and as for the lowering of the bar regarding "The Entitlement Generation".......The lowering of the bar started at the mainline carriers through paycuts and work rule changes. I don't know any "Entitlement Generation" pilots at a major. This crappy mess is being dumped in our lap and we're supposed to make chicken $hi+ out of chicken salad by reversing the momentum of a movement we didn't start. Watch which generation bleeds to change things for the better- bet the next airline to strike isn't a major........

Oh, and according to many financial sources- Never in the history of the US Collegiate system has a generation had to pay so much in order to graduate for such little wage benafit. Why- YOUR generation is outsourcing jobs and fostering cutbacks that continue to systematically neuter this once strong country.

 

[Metro752]

I quoted my two favorites here, because maybe it will scare the ERAU asshates away from GoJets that I directed to this thread.

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I have the Freedom-A and an early Go-Jets list (I need an update actually). I will keep these forever, and reference them anytime I am in a position to influence jumpseat, hiring, or training decisions. Maybe I'm the only one?...or maybe not.

Picture this...a gojet alumni has landed his dream job at a top major, got through training and 11 months on line. Well now it's time for his probationary PC...he shows up as scheduled not realizing that the sim instructor conducting the PC was furloughed from TSA back in the day...and he still has the list...Ooops!

Anyone wonder why all the G-J guys have UAL crew tags on their overnight bags (those orange plastic discs) ?

The UAL rampers in ORD express their feelings in different ways - they will find crew bags in the back and open them and slash the bags and / or the clothes inside.

You wanna deal with this at work all the time ?

Oh that last one, ORD rampers, lo. Pwnt


on ERAUs part iSN't this like borderline CRIMINAL? Well maybe not but strill, How in GODS NAME could you want people to go work for GOJETS?

Hey you're talking about my generation, and it hurts Oh well! Lets go kill some commies!

 

[DiverDriver]

You ERAU grads are silly little children that know absolutely nothing about the airlines and how they work so for you to post threads knocking any regional makes me laugh. Grow up, is all I have to say. What you hear is what is programed into your stupid little minds, and p.s. I am an ERAU grad and wish I would never had the chance to go and make a $150000 mistake to go and take there crap of promises to "bypass the regionals" wich I am sure you all heard. So, in closing, keep your mouth shut and your mind open because tomorrow,more then likely, the next regional is going to be bad mouthed.

You paid 150K? Who's the stupid one? How much XT did you need to get through?

 

[tjsatter]

The ONLY thing that separates Gay-jet Scum from true blue bona-fide SCAB shiites is Opportunity. They have shown their lack of integrety and character by signing on with that scum. They are the moral equivalent of scab

We had an FAA jumpseater on board a while back that said a lot of the new hire FOs @ Gay_Jets were Old Farts 50+, the only explanation I could make for this was that they were career scabs and were on so many blacklists that they couldn't get on with a reputable line: Eastern, Continental, United et al I'm sure that a lot of these scum have very impressive resumes (NOT)

you people make me laugh. Go jets is not a scab airline. a scab is someone who crosses a picket line why can't everyone understand that. I don't work there. everyone said the samething about mesa and florida gulf but guess what they work for legacy airlines anyway. Even alpa will tell you that they are not scabs. Why don't you go read alpa policy on scabs first beforew running your mouth.

 

[bravodude]

The ONLY thing that separates Gay-jet Scum from true blue bona-fide SCAB shiites is Opportunity. They have shown their lack of integrety and character by signing on with that scum. They are the moral equivalent of scab

We had an FAA jumpseater on board a while back that said a lot of the new hire FOs @ Gay_Jets were Old Farts 50+, the only explanation I could make for this was that they were career scabs and were on so many blacklists that they couldn't get on with a reputable line: Eastern, Continental, United et al I'm sure that a lot of these scum have very impressive resumes (NOT)

If they are scabs from another airline then I agree with you but otherwise they are not scabs. When I was instructing and we had pft everybody called those guys scabs whell you know what all of them are at all the legacy airlines now so you tell me what kind of scabs are they. Do they have integrity, morals......NO but they are not scabs.

 

[fuelflow]

The ONLY thing that separates Gay-jet Scum from true blue bona-fide SCAB shiites is Opportunity. They have shown their lack of integrety and character by signing on with that scum. They are the moral equivalent of scab

We had an FAA jumpseater on board a while back that said a lot of the new hire FOs @ Gay_Jets were Old Farts 50+, the only explanation I could make for this was that they were career scabs and were on so many blacklists that they couldn't get on with a reputable line: Eastern, Continental, United et al I'm sure that a lot of these scum have very impressive resumes (NOT)

Not a single scab works at GoJet. You might want to check your own seniority list. The older guys hired at GoJet are mostly Captains.

 

[paddlehigh]

go to go jets AND DON'T TRY TO JUMPSEAT HOME ON AN ANOTHER AIRLINE BECAUSE THE CREW WON'T LET YOU ON THE FLIGHT, GOOD LUCK

 

[Iron Man]

go to go jets AND DON'T TRY TO JUMPSEAT HOME ON AN ANOTHER AIRLINE BECAUSE THE CREW WON'T LET YOU ON THE FLIGHT, GOOD LUCK

Paddlehigh, tjsatter, etc.
GJ pilots have always been welcome in our jumpseats up until the cass requirement was implemented. You summations regarding their status as scabs or scum or whatever your pleasure, speaks volumes of your understanding of exactly what you guys are up against. Your fight is not with GJ, and I am surprised with all the literature you take the time to print that you haven't figured that out yet. I do not want to sound like I am name calling, because I do not want to lower myself to your level. But Mr. Gump was correct: "stupid is as stupid does". God help you the day you reach the majors. With your kind of brilliance, you'd be eaten alive. But, maybe that is what it will take to wake you guys up. Start printing something intelligent.

 

[paddlehigh]

Hey iron man I work within in a pilot group called ALPA and they have advised our pilots not to let go jets pilots onboard, so maybe you should send ALPA your intelligent suggestions, I just follow the rules of my union, so I don't end up on a list someday.

 

[redbook]

Not a single scab works at GoJet. You might want to check your own seniority list. The older guys hired at GoJet are mostly Captains.

They are all scumbags and alter ego pilots now.

 

[theo]

Hey iron man I work within in a pilot group called ALPA and they have advised our pilots not to let go jets pilots onboard, so maybe you should send ALPA your intelligent suggestions, I just follow the rules of my union, so I don't end up on a list someday.

I have never seen anything from ALPA directing pilots not to let GoJet pilots on the jumpseat. Where is this information? Really you need to at least try to be accurate with your information. But this is just a plain ole lie. Typical of the anti GoJet zealots.