EMB 170 today at CHQ

[GFunk20]

Guys, an EMB 170 came to visit CHQ today and did a test with 70 employees and took a 45 minute test flight.

Maybe the United deal IS in the works after all.

 

[buzzer]

Pilotron...ok...state your source.

 

[Heavy Set]

Just for the passengers' sake, it would be far better to fly on EMB-170s vs. the CRJ tubes.... Does not surprise me that CHQ and UAL would be looking at it given the importance of customer loyalty. Great opportunity for CHQ pilots (and UAL furloughees)!

I hope it works out!

 

[Machdog1]

I wouldn't get too excited, there is a reason why ACA is leaving United, just look at what is happenning at Air Whiskey!! No way are you going to fly those 170's unless you fly them cheap for cheap United! The race to the bottom continues!!

 

[Machdog1]

I really don't think so. If you do get a contract I wonder what your rates will be to be "competative", as low as possible if you want a United contract. Then lets see if your company can get finiancing for new aircraft or even make any kind of profit, again there is a reason why ACA left United!! If anything you might be alittle jealous, I don't see chic- wha getting narrow bodies!! I congradulate you guys on your contract way to go in times like these. Inregards to the race to the bottom I am not talking about your pilot pay, I am talking about the situation with United. They want cheap cheap cheap and I wouldn't be to excited over it. Becareful what you wish for you just might get it!!

 

[Machdog1]

Its all about finiancing, your company will see if it partners up with United. P.S. I read your contract and again I congradulate you!

 

[Avi8tor2000]

How about congratulations instead of "congradulations"...?

Just a thought.

The 170's are coming, around 6 next year, 8 the year after, 25-50 for a grand total. J4J with UAL.

 

[nimtz]

Race to the bottom? How do you figure?

We have a much improved TA being voted on, so how are we racing to the bottom?

P.S. my source is our EC quoted at the roadshow for the TA. they are company pilots and do not lie to their membership

Like it or not the pay rates in your TA for 59+ are F*CKING PATHETIC, just as are Mesa's and Skywest's! You guys are smiling and nodding to the idea of growth even if the pay ain't right, but where are you going in five years? You will live by these numbers you vote in for a LONG time.

Seventy seaters are mainline fr*cking airplanes and when things get better there will be no mainline jobs to go around because you'll be getting paid 59 bucks an hour to be a captain on 170! Management is playing you guys like a harp by showing off a 170 during contract decision time. Hey guys, check out this cool jet you'll get to fly! Remember fellas growth always comes before compensation!

 

[g159av8tor]

Another ALPA v. APLA. What a disgrace.

 

[BlueCanoe]

1. IBT (CHQ) vs. ALPA...Scope This ---> ..!..

2. 25 firm/25 options per the MOU (it is only such) + UAL J4J (which, now pay attention U pilots, is only pref hiring...5 per A/C and NO superseniority. Very gracious and social way to do it. I look forward to flying with you folk).

3. Props to Smaller Jets to Narrow Body...hmmmmm...Sounds like about 45 years ago

4. I'm getting a pay raise with bigger equipment. (Yeah it has pimp avionics too)

5. When #3 happened, "Mainline" "Real Airlines" or whatever PC phrase stokes your ego, the CAB didn't let you lose money. With the success of LCC, you can bet in the next contract here at CHQ, the pay will follow. If we get too out of line with our peers (since crew costs are the deciding factor in Departure Fee airlines), we will stagnate on growth.

Have a super weekend

 

[mckpickle]

HERE PILOT PILOT PILOT....Here Pilot pilot pilot. Take the carrot... go ahead take the Carrot.

 

[KFFA]

Ok for you guys that think CHQ, Mesa and SkyWest are racing to the bottom in salary, I pose this one...........What would be an honest pay for a 70 seat driver and a 90 seat driver? For a Capt and a FO??? You say we are cheep labor, well then name the price??? $100 an hour, $200 or $50 What would you be happy with if your paycheck said.....amount every two weeks?

 

[CRJ puppy]

How about congratulations instead of "congradulations"...?

Just a thought.

The 170's are coming, around 6 next year, 8 the year after, 25-50 for a grand total. J4J with UAL.

Oh, heck...then why not "financing" vs. "finiancing"?

 

[meanstreak]

you guys are just a carbon copy of Mesa!!!!!!!!!

 

[RPA]

Maybe this will help get the thread back on track:

Today in IND:

Pict 1

Pict 2

Pict 3

Pict 4

Very kool aeroplane!

 

[BlueCanoe]

Quit dragging us through the mud. I can't wait for CoEx to get a TA so ya'll can bitch about how they didn't raise the bar enough, or didn't kiss Comair's rear for going on strike. If you are able to read, you will find we have SUBSTANTIAL improvements in Scheduling, benefits, and work rules. We created a "One Company, One list" without any concession. Well, let me take that back, the ONLY concession in the contract is now we can only carry 1.5 times our PDO accrual to the next year (presently 2).

Let's evaluate the sections:
1) Scope - One Company, One List --- improved
2) Definitions - Same
3) Compensation - everyone gets a raise --- improved
4) Expenses - improved
5) Moving Expenses - improved
6) Scheduling - improved
7) Vacancies - same
8) PDO's - same, but for fairness our only concession
9) Seniority - improved
10) Training - New, improved
11) Furlough Same
12) LOA Improved
13) Physical Standards - Improved
14) Insurance and Benefits - Drastically Improved
15) Supervisory - Improved
16) check Airmen - Improved
17) Bases - Imroved
18) Resolution of Disputes - Improved
19) Dues - Same
20) Uniforms - Improved
21) New Aircraft - Improved
22) General - Improved
23) Hours of Service - same
24) MIA - Improved

The final score 23-1. One slight loss. Overall, each section is better, some more so than others, than the present CBA, plus our EC neutered an alter ego. I guess if we could always get what we wanted, they'd be the Handout Comittee, and not the Negotiating Comittee.

On a side note HappyPilotGirl, our EC did want all you fine folks from SA to get pref. hiring. The company thought about it and rejected it. The Local is still trying to work a deal for ya'll. (from the road show). BTW, since you are rated on the 747-4 according to your list, you should have no problem finding a job outside of SA.

I must apologize to those of you that are insulted by our horrible and abusive working conditons. I also add my apologies that our 60+ seat pay rate, although it is 1.5% higher than AWAC, is a joke. Thankfully, you have no reason to associate with such a group of sellouts such as us. I also apologize for the growth we've had over the past 5 years. Perhaps we should vote our TA down to better your company.

 

[blott]

LOL.."fo couldn't afford the digital camera..."

I'm a 3rd year fo for chq.

I've got the MINOLTA dimage 7i ,5.2 mega pixls. camera. the bose X with the upgraded power cord and mike, Archos 40 Gig multimedia "mp3/hard drive/ avi player/recorder/ smart media card reader/compact flash module/camera. I have a licensed copy of ADOBE photoshop 7.0, and others. A "competition class" stereo in my car (1200 watts rms). enough computer stuff on my desk to warrent three power stips, I have a collection of orchids I grow, etc. I have a GF in college(read not much money) with a 7yr old Kid-I pay the bills in my 1900 sq foot condo- for all three of us. I'm getting fat from eating out to much(even with my $500 gym membership)...

I'm doing OK...I can wait a few years for the "big money-I'm doing OK...(can still tip well, and throw around money at the "club".

B

COuld someone please post the 70 and 90 seat rates at the majors so I can compare?

 

[46Driver]

RPA,
Thanks for the photos. That's the first real good look I have had at the EMB-170 - very nice looking machine (much better than the CRJ-700)

HappyPilotGirl,
Where did you get your avatars? Is there a website with them - they did look quite funny!

 

[BlueCanoe]

Believe blott. I've flown with him. He's a playa pimp, and should be moving left soon!!

 

[blott]

Hey Happypilotgirl,

(Regarding Picture #2: "see, this is where the FO will be putting the bags before departure")

another good one...lol. (I guess that is better than putting them in storage, in the garage. Where are you going to put yours in a few months when Wexford is done with you guys. (I was one of the 15 SF3 guys fired illegally by CHQ 'cause the SF3's were losing money-then WEX. bought you guys to help run the leases out with our AC and routes ... but don't worry, we are STILL working on getting you all here at CHQ (if you want to) when the AXE starts swinging at shuttle ...

B