Delta to recall 65 more

[80for80]

No shortage of pilots that want to work for stable companies.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Ah yes...the all knowing has spoken. So Mr. MBA what is a "good airline" these days????

That term is now an oxymoron.

 

[Lake Alice]

FLYLOW22,

What are you doing these days?

Short of FedEx/UPS the 250K senior captain days are done. That being said Delta will still be much better than a lot of other jobs. Flexibility and schedule are still huge reasons to go to a major airline. The pay, though less than it used to be, will still be higher than most other jobs. Having done corp, frax and 121, the life is still better at the airlines. For what its worth I would like to do something else but if I stay in aviaton I'd rather do it at an airline. Getting out of aviation all together is also just as risky. All those who go into computers, start their own business or what ever else face the same hurdles. Consolidations, lay offs etc...

When things are good they are good and the opposite is true for all industries.

 

[General Lee]

I doubt any hiring by Christmas. Late Spring is what I am hearing.

What's in store? Probably slow progression for the first few years. After that, we will catch up with the retirements again and things should move as normal.

The LEX crash has me worried also. Numerous reasons I have always thought owning your regionals was a mistake.....this is one of them. Lots of exposure to Delta over this one. But I don't think it will derail Delta's recovery.

The last crash before the Comair crash was the AA A300 in JFK. That was deemed to be the FO's fault with excessive rudder usage. They seem to be going strong still. Also, the LEX controller was partially at fault too for not monitoring the takeoff. That is what Insurance is for.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

You think DAL can actually ramp up hiring by XMAS?
And what is in store for us recallees? Progression or minimal progression into stagnation on reserve? Im a little worried about the LEX crash also...
what is the talk in the crew bus on all the issues?

No hiring until every furlough bypasses and then they are left with open slots and no one willing to fill them. If the current bypass rate continues, then that could happen next Spring. Our furloughed pilots come back to 6th year pay, whereas United's returning furloughs come back to the same pay grade (year wise) as they had when they were furloughed. Not bad I guess. Welcome back!

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[pilotyip]

Thanks 80 for 80, your input is always inlightening. Please do us a servcie and define stable company, without telling us how unstable the on-demand business is; every one knows the on-demand business is like a roller coaster. You must be talking about stable union represented companies companies that have been around for years, like PamAm, Eastern, Braniff, Transamerican, Zantop. Please we need your input help us out.

 

[GogglesPisano]

Delta Posts Profit for July
Wednesday August 30, 4:51 pm ET
Delta Earned $69 Million in July


ATLANTA (AP) -- Delta Air Lines Inc., the nation's third-largest carrier, said Wednesday it made a profit of $69 million in July.
The Atlanta-based company said in a bankruptcy court filing that excluding reorganization items, it had net income of $99 million in July. Revenue for the 31-day period was $1.71 billion.

Delta has lost more than $16 billion since January 2001, but in recent months has been narrowing its losses and even posting monthly profits as it restructures its costs and benefits along with the industry from higher tickets prices.

Delta, which filed for bankruptcy in September 2005, is expecting to emerge from Chapter 11 by the middle of 2007.

 

[PHXFLYR]

All this supports the 2007 hirng boom. Pilot shortage is on its way

Thank you ,Mr Darby......

PHXFLYR

 

[PHXFLYR]

No shortage of pilots that want to work for stable companies.

No shortage of unstable pilots, either!!


PHXFLYR

 

[EMBpilot]

DAL pilots,

Could you tell me how senior DAL SLC base is? And what kind of airplanes? That and LAX.
If, lets say, hired sometime next year how long approximately, in your judgement, would it take to get there.

Thank you very much.

 

[michael707767]

DAL pilots,

Could you tell me how senior DAL SLC base is? And what kind of airplanes? That and LAX.
If, lets say, hired sometime next year how long approximately, in your judgement, would it take to get there.

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SLC is fairly senior. But we are already starting to see that dropping off on the bottom of the list there. The junior most pilots in SLC are not much senior to the junior pilots anywhere. In fact, I think the very bottom FO in SLC is junior to the bottom FO in ATL.

LAX, kinda the same thing. The senior most captains are pretty senior. The junior most FO's are very junior. I would not be surprised to see some recalled guys going right to 767 FO in LAX.

So to answer your last question, I don't think it would take long at all to get either one. I think LAX will end up being our junior base.

 

[GogglesPisano]

I'm assuming MD88 in NYC is the junior seat. What about the -800 in NYC? Must be a lot smaller status since it no longer does the Shuttle.

 

[michael707767]

I'm assuming MD88 in NYC is the junior seat. What about the -800 in NYC? Must be a lot smaller status since it no longer does the Shuttle.

yes, the 88 in NYC is the junior seat. The bottom pilot on the 738 in NYC is only about 100 numbers senior to the bottom 88 pilot.

 

[MQAAord]

Congrats to the recall-ees.

Welcome back, dust off that uniform and send it off to the cleaners.

The first few trips back from furlough are really eerie, it's like a weird dream. It's the same as you left it, but yet it's very different.

 

[EMBpilot]

SLC is fairly senior. But we are already starting to see that dropping off on the bottom of the list there. The junior most pilots in SLC are not much senior to the junior pilots anywhere. In fact, I think the very bottom FO in SLC is junior to the bottom FO in ATL.

LAX, kinda the same thing. The senior most captains are pretty senior. The junior most FO's are very junior. I would not be surprised to see some recalled guys going right to 767 FO in LAX.

So to answer your last question, I don't think it would take long at all to get either one. I think LAX will end up being our junior base.

Thank you very much.
How about the airplanes? Is SLC only 737? And LAX only 756?

 

[Dangerkitty]

Short of FedEx/UPS the 250K senior captain days are done.

You forgot SWA.

 

[Scrapdog]

Yeah, but who would want to go to that train wreck of a company????

Who you ask?? Every pimply faced 21 year old RJ pilot with about 1500 hours of turbine SIC making 18K a year thinking a "big jet" with a sweet autopilot is the pinnacle of aviation. That's who my friend - they'll be lining up in droves.

 

[General Lee]

Thank you very much.
How about the airplanes? Is SLC only 737? And LAX only 756?

LAX has the 757/767 domestic (about 140 lines for Capt and FO), and another category for the 765 (767-400 INTL)--with 56 lines for Captain and FO. The 765 does Hawaii and is senior in LA.

SLC has the MD90, 737-800, and 757/767. About 500 pilots are in those categories in SLC supposedly.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Gofish]

Hey General...can I get you to walk my stuff in when the time comes?

I used to work for the widget as a gate agent in JAX and have always wanted to go back. I think Delta is a proud Southern company.

 

[Ben Franklin]

The 765 does Hawaii and is senior in LA.



Bye Bye--General Lee

When did Delta get the 765?

Will the recalled pilots be able to hold it?

What is a 765?


Sincerely,

B. Franklin