Delta to hire again?

[FBN0223]

Seriously.

We need more people like Superpilot in this thread to keep the spirits up.

That's why he's SUPERPILOT!!!!

 

[qxdash8]

Seriously.

We need more people like Superpilot in this thread to keep the spirits up.

His avatar helps to keep my spirits up!

 

[Razor_B]

Here's some good news for you to think about. In this survey 86% of small business owners expect business to be as good or better next year. Small business is vital to our economy and I put more stock in a scientific survey than anecdotal evidence heard at my corner coffee shop.


UPS Survey Takes Pulse of Small Business Owners

ATLANTA, Jan. 21, 2009 - Amid a steady stream of grim economic news, a large majority of small-business owners are optimistic about their company's financial future, according to two nationwide surveys sponsored by UPS (NYSE: UPS). In the first UPS Business Monitor United States, conducted between September and October last year, 91 percent of small-business owners or managers said they expect their company to be in the same or better financial shape in a year than it is today. A follow-up survey, conducted in mid-December after economic conditions worsened, showed only a small decline in the first survey's optimism, with 86 percent of small-businesses owners expecting their company to be in the same or better financial shape in one year.
"Despite incredible changes in the economy, small businesses still see vibrant opportunities," said Jim Beach, a professor of entrepreneurship at the University of Tennessee. "That eternal optimism and entrepreneurial spirit in the face of adversity is an asset that bodes well for the future of our economy." More comments from Jim Beach
Importantly, this optimism is rooted in realism as small-business owners surveyed do not project a speedy economic recovery. In the first survey, almost half (47 percent) of small-business owners said they believe that the U.S. economy will begin to improve in 2010 or later. That number climbed to 67 percent in the December survey.
Small-business leaders also are optimistic about their workforce prospects. Two-thirds (66 percent) of respondents in the first survey said they plan to keep the same size workforce for the next 12 months. Almost one-quarter (24 percent) said they will increase their workforce; only 10 percent said they plan to reduce it. A greater number of small-business owners in the second survey expect their workforces to remain the same. Almost three-quarters (74 percent) said they expect their workforce to remain the same this year, 13 percent expect to increase their workforce and 12 percent said they plan to cut staff.
"Small businesses are the key to capitalism and to the job market," noted Prof. Jeff Rosensweig of Emory University's Goizueta Business School. "These UPS Business Monitors give us a great finger on the pulse of small business and these latest surveys give us reason to lighten the prevailing mood of 'gloom and doom.'"More comments from Jeff Rosensweig
Companies that trade are particularly optimistic
Small-business owners who engage in international trade were more likely to project that their business would be in a better economic position 12 months from now compared to those who did not. In the first survey, 56 percent of small-business owners who engage in cross-border trade expect their company to be in a better economic position in one year, compared to 41 percent of companies that did not trade. This gap widened in the second survey, with 62 percent of small-businesses owners who trade internationally expressing optimism compared to 39 percent of non-traders.
Despite this trade-related optimism, the majority of small businesses surveyed aren't exporting. Almost three-quarters (73 percent) of respondents do not engage - and do not plan to engage - in international trade. Unfamiliarity with global markets, language barriers and apprehension about preparing customs and other documents were among the main reasons why small-business owners say they aren't trading across borders.
"This survey shows that the vast majority of small-business owners are missing out on the key opportunities offered by international trade," said Alan Gershenhorn, UPS senior vice president of worldwide sales and marketing. "By expanding opportunities in new markets, cross-border trade can help small businesses diversify, buffering them against risk, and helping them stay strong in tough times."
Small-business owners may be particularly optimistic for one important reason: they love what they do. When asked in the first survey what else they would do if money were no object, more than one-third (37 percent) said they would continue running their businesses and 12 percent said they would invest more money in their companies. Only 13 percent said they would retire.
UPS (NYSE: UPS) is the world's largest package delivery company and a global leader in supply chain and freight services. With more than a century of experience in transportation and logistics, UPS is a leading global trade expert equipped with a broad portfolio of solutions. Headquartered in Atlanta, Ga., UPS serves more than 200 countries and territories worldwide. The company can be found on the Web at UPS.com. To get UPS news direct, visit pressroom.ups.com/RSS.
About the UPS Business Monitor
The UPS Business Monitor is currently conducted in the United States, Canada, Latin America and Asia. It is a survey of small business decision-makers to monitor their opinions on a range of business issues. The UPS Business Monitor is as an important information resource to help UPS customers stay ahead of ever-changing business trends.

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Notes about the research:
Research was conducted by TNS, a world leader in market insight and information, using a business panel.

For the first survey:

• A total of 600 telephone interviews with small business establishments in the U.S. were conducted between Sept. 19 and Oct. 13, 2008:
  • 200 interviews with companies who have 2-9 employees
  • 200 interviews with companies who have 10-49 employees
  • 200 interviews with companies who have 50-250 employees

For the second survey:

• A total of 151 telephone interviews with small business establishments in the U.S. were conducted from Dec. 15-19, 2008.
  • 51 interviews with companies who have 2-9 employees
  • 50 interviews with companies who have 10-49 employees
  • 50 interviews with companies who have 50-250 employees

For both surveys:

• Respondents had to be extremely or very knowledgeable about their company's overall economic position and had to be part of the decision-making process for the company.
• UPS was not identified as the sponsor of the survey
• The survey length was 11 minutes

About TNS
TNS is a global market insight and information group. Their strategic goal is to be recognized as the global leader in delivering value-added information and insights that help clients make more effective decisions. Through a network that extends across 70 countries, they are the world's foremost provider of custom research and analysis, combining in-depth industry sector understanding with world-class expertise in the areas of new product development, segmentation and positioning research, brand and advertising research and stakeholder management. They are a major supplier of consumer panel, media intelligence and internet, TV and radio audience measurement services.

 

[SpauldingSmails]

I got to thinking . . . say they had to furlough 500, and 300 said they wanna go to Compass (for reasons we cannot fathom ).

Some would start training right away but clearly they cannot train more than about 20-30 a month to go to Compass due to the number of sims, instructors, and check airman available.

Would the ones waiting collect min guarantee somewhere while they wait? That is a heck of a lot of money if you add it all up, not to mention the cost of training each pilot and then re-training Compass pilots a year or two or three later as they come back in and meanwhile mainline recalls are ALSO back in THEIR training at that time. Wow. Big bucks.

Hopefully none of it happens.

I've pondered this very same notion myself. I have a feeling (purely conjecture) that if Delta does furlough, it won't be 150 guys here, then 100 there... and so on a so forth, it'll be one huge chunk. Otherwise its total musical chairs at Compass where every furloughee claims an Embraer type rating consolation prize on their way out the door.

I don't believe the contract states anything about pay guarantee while awaiting a Compass seat.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Correct if they furlough they will do what they need to do almost at one. The displacements on both sides of the fence are setting up for that.
We on the DAL side are just under 400 people fat for the first quarter. It is not enough to justify a furlough from this side. In essence they need to flush the entire CPZ list and then some to make it worthwhile. Also, of note the CPZ flow adds a good amount of time to the ROI (Return on Investment) to a furlough. Add good things from a pilots perspective.
The wild card is this economy. It is still tanking, which may result in a further pull back. If that happens, I think that we have hit the magic number so to speak.
That said, the best guess that may in the know have stated is a couple hundred if we did need to furlough. But then again, there are only plans to plans. As I said a few months ago, more will be known in a Month or two.

 

[p3flteng]

Yea I saw that, what is up with that crap? Retired means retired in my book, these Jagoffs will be slowing seniority progression for the whole group, not to mention what would happen to the bottom of the list, can you picture that, pilots fuloughed while we have part time retirees working.....F That.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

My question is that if they get this passed are they still active member is the union. DO they get a vote? If so they will vote to pillage the bottom of the list and flying to get more out of the career for themselves.

 

[Fly4hire]

My question is that if they get this passed are they still active member is the union. DO they get a vote? If so they will vote to pillage the bottom of the list and flying to get more out of the career for themselves.

I wouldn't sweat this one too much. It was approved as "study the concept and report back" by our previous MEC - I think it's probably DOA from the DALPA side.

 

[FBN0223]

I wouldn't sweat this one too much. It was approved as "study the concept and report back" by our previous MEC - I think it's probably DOA from the DALPA side.

You're right, it probably will be DOA. But it's not dead yet and those that haven't written their representatives should probably do so.

I thought Compass would be DOA as well and look what happened. Through fear, corruption, lies and confusion a new airline was born.

 

[NuGuy]

The wild card is this economy. It is still tanking, which may result in a further pull back.

Heyas,

No wild card at all. It's a joker. The talking heads on CNBC are talking in circles because they have no idea what's going on.

Once Wall Street was converted to just another Las Vegas strip, and that scam sold to the public, you could bank on the result.

So you say to yourself "if Wall Street is just a Vegas casino, why isn't the 'house' making any money?" The problem is that the pretty boy Ivy League grads running the asylum never watched "Scarface", so they never learned that all important lesson: Never do your own blow.

Hilarity ensued.

Nu

 

[dbrownie]

Yea I saw that, what is up with that crap? Retired means retired in my book, these Jagoffs will be slowing seniority progression for the whole group, not to mention what would happen to the bottom of the list, can you picture that, pilots fuloughed while we have part time retirees working.....F That.

This thing should be DOA. Who in their right mind wants

to give this to this group (60+, over 25 years service)?

The greed at fNWA knows noboundries.

Most of the guys I have spoken with can't wait for

NWA to be over with....All I ask for and hope is

fair treatment from our "new" Delta co-workers.

DB

 

[Fly4hire]

This thing should be DOA. Who in their right mind wants

to give this to this group (60+, over 25 years service)?

The greed at fNWA knows noboundries.

Most of the guys I have spoken with can't wait for

NWA to be over with....All I ask for and hope is

fair treatment from our "new" Delta co-workers.

DB

...the greed of a small minority of influential WB Reps and their supporters in SEA and ANC...