Delta RFP awarded....

[LearLove]

the first thing is all under one list. no more contracting out. if you fly an aircraft with x airlines paint on it then your on that airlines list, period dot end of discussion. then we can start working on the other stuff. unless this happens first nothing else will be able to be fixed in our career.

Associated Press
Analyst Sees Republic Airways-Delta Deal
Associated Press 01.03.07, 3:49 PM ET

Shares of Republic Airways Holdings Inc. rose Wednesday, after a Calyon Securities Inc. analyst said he thinks it's likely that the small carrier will soon reach a new flying services agreement with Delta Air Lines Inc.
Shares added 94 cents, or 5.6 percent, to $17.72 in afternoon trading on the Nasdaq with more than twice the usual volume.
Analyst Ray Neidl in a client note said it is likely that Republic in early 2007 will reach a new agreement for regional flying services with Delta Air Lines.
"This contract has been in a state of limbo since Delta entered bankruptcy in 2005, through which the legacy carrier had the right to accept or reject the contract," wrote Neidl.
In the past, Republic has estimated that changes in its agreement with Delta could cost Republic between $7 million to $10 million in annual revenue, the analyst wrote, but he expects any changes to be "manageable."
The contract is likely to include a slightly smaller margin guarantee, but importantly, it means the two companies' relationship will continue, added Neidl.
"Once the new Delta contract is concluded, it will give investors added confidence in the company for longer-term earnings and cash flow predictability," the analyst wrote, keeping a "Buy" rating on shares of Republic. He lifted his target price to $23 from $20.
For the rest of the airline industry, Neidl in another client note said he expects the sector to earn $2.3 billion in 2006, compared to a loss of $5.9 billion in 2005. Strong fundamentals for the industry, coupled with merger and acquisition activity, are likely to make 2007 another turnaround year for airlines, the analyst wrote.
"Our recommendation, despite the strong rise in 2006 in airline stock prices, is that investors should become aggressive in this sector for at least the first half of 2007," the analyst added.

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[Skyward]

You mean like coex, comair, airwis? There are pilots making more money than us at companies that are not doing as well. That is a direct result of unions. As long as we continue to put our earnings potential in the hands of management, we will always be underpaid.

I was with Teamsters at my last airline. It sucked. But I'm not so simple-minded to blame the union for all of the airlines problems.

SAPA has proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that they are incapable of getting us fair compensation for the 70 and 90 seat jets. It's time to negotiate with leverage. ALPA has the resources to help us smoothly transition into a united workforce.

By coex did you mean Expressjet or Republic?

 

[flyer172r]

What rights?

Did someone, or company, take CMR ALPA to court and ask the court to ban them from self help?

No, management asked the court to ban the pilots from self help once they won the right to throw out the pilot contract. That's who the real enemy is here, people.

 

[Superpilot92]

By coex did you mean Expressjet or Republic?

 

[Texx]

No, management asked the court to ban the pilots from self help once they won the right to throw out the pilot contract.

No, they are two different things. Just because CMR won the right to impose their own contract doesn't mean that CMR asked the court to prevent the pilots from striking. If I'm correct, there was talk about it but CMR did not follow through with it.

 

[~~~^~~~]

Lear Love: Good post. Mesa did a similar breakthrough on Friday, but it has not been sustained.

 

[737 Pylt]

What an idiot. lol. WE TRIED TO COMBINE OUR LIST WITH DELTA PER ALPA POLICY!!AND WE WERE TOLD TO POUND SAND. NONE OF THE FULOUGHS WOULD OF HAPPENEED IF YOU GUYS WERE NOT SO SELF SERVING.

Oh that's rich, is that right out of the rjdc playbook?? Your name should be dumbasspilotthink!
Of course this is all a moot point now anyway as DL is back in hiring mode, and cmr pilots need not apply! Plus cmr seems to have bigger fish to fry now.

WE AGREED THEY SHOULD HAVE PREFERENTIAL INTERVIEWS!!! YOU JUST WANTED TO WALK IN LIKE YOU BELONGED HERE. WE WERE NEVER OFFERED JOBS AT DELTA JUST BECAUSE. WHAT A BUNCH OF SELF SERVING IDIOTS.

Thats all I got to say about that

You should save your breath for your inflatable date!

Nobody ever wanted to walk in like they belonged there tool!
The hiring of DL furloughs to the bottom of the cmr list would have cost the cmr pilots and its mec nothing, but the gesture would have been worth millions! The ASA pilots/MEC saw it that way, its just too bad morons like you don't. But that's not surprising is it now?

737

 

[PCL_128]

No, they are two different things. Just because CMR won the right to impose their own contract doesn't mean that CMR asked the court to prevent the pilots from striking. If I'm correct, there was talk about it but CMR did not follow through with it.

Yes, CMR management did ask the court to order the pilots not to strike. The judge has delayed his ruling on the matter until after the 32-day extension. He is widely expected to grant CMR management their draconian request.

 

[Dirt Doctor]

So What

The Judge can rule however he want's. Sick calls will follow and the court can't stop us. Delta's new modo will be "Good Goes Down!!!!"

 

[FlyingDawg]

You've got it arse backwards again BVT. The Delta pilots offered to negotiate a pay rate for the RJs but DAL said that even if the Delta pilots it flew it for $0, it still wouldn't be cost effective.

Just recently, diring the DAL 1113c hearing, when DALPA argued that DAL pilots ought to fly anything over 70 seats and that DAL pilots were willing to negotiate industry competive rates, DAL countered that regardless of the rates the DAL pilots were willing to negotiate, CMR pilots cost half as much as DAL pilots to fly those same jets.

You need to look at this from a business prospective. The real cost is not the first year pay or for that matter any year pay in the RJ. The cost to the airline is the additional years at the mainline carrier flying the largest cost equipment.

For instance, suppose the airlines adopted the RJ at mainline with payscales below regional rates. Overtime the average age of pilots starting careers at mainline would drop. This in effect would increase the years of service at mainline and result in higher costs at the top of line aircraft (777, 747, 767 etc..) The lower costs on the bottom end could never makeup for the additional costs at the end of ones career.

An actuary (sp?) friend whose firm was hired by an airline to study this cost said in terms of years they came to the conclusion that if RJ's were flown by mainline the average career would be extended by 7 years on the mainlines payroll.