Delta pilots - Thanks for raising the bar

[waveflyer]

Split-
Of course they asked for bigger!
I'm sure they'd outsource all narrow body flying if they could
You're not seeing the precedent. Only usair outsources as large as you- and they signed off on it in BK, both east & west.
Delta had only achieved 76 seats in BK.
You guys just added -900's while immensely profitable and unified.
Think. What legal precedent does that set?
Why did UAL pull their current offer immediately after you voted that in?
Bc they know they have a new precedent-

Sure - 50's are going-
That's a battle you should have won in 1992- now mgmt can't make money with them- they needed to reload the whipsaw market with larger more efficient "next gen RJs, and you gaveit to them with a margin that would be considered a landslide in a presidential election-
You're mgmt is probably slightly perturbed it passed so easily.

Those of you fighting the good fight at delta, I feel for you and you have my respect-

But you have a lot of work to do-

 

[SplitBar]

Split-
Of course they asked for bigger!
I'm sure they'd outsource all narrow body flying if they could
You're not seeing the precedent. Only usair outsources as large as you- and they signed off on it in BK, both east & west.
Delta had only achieved 76 seats in BK.
You guys just added -900's while immensely profitable and unified.
Think. What legal precedent does that set?
Why did UAL pull their current offer immediately after you voted that in?
Bc they know they have a new precedent-

Sure - 50's are going-
That's a battle you should have won in 1992- now mgmt can't make money with them- they needed to reload the whipsaw market with larger more efficient "next gen RJs, and you gaveit to them with a margin that would be considered a landslide in a presidential election-
You're mgmt is probably slightly perturbed it passed so easily.

Those of you fighting the good fight at delta, I feel for you and you have my respect-

But you have a lot of work to do-

Whatever Idiot. If you are so concerned about selling out then you reallocate some of your FI time and move it towards helping to make sure the Air Trans pilots aren't sold out...Oh wait...too late...you already sold them out. Perhaps you could move on to the USair threads as they allow bigger RJ's than us. Get informed and get over your bitterness.

 

[waveflyer]

I'm a LOT of things split. Believe me, I know I haven't won a lot of friends out of dalpa yes voters.
But Im not stupid. Many people disagree with me on many things, but they know I've done my research and speak from experience.
I imagine you can't address the points in my post if deflection is all you have.
How long did you expect the rest of the industry to stay quiet about your outsourcing. Dalpa pilots throughout history have not been quiet when they thought a pilot group was hurting the industry. Certainly, many of you still rip swa for pay rates almost a decade ago. I don't mind that.
So which is it? You can critique, but cannot accept?

 

[redflyer65]

I imagine you can't address the points in my post if deflection is all you have.
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This ^^^^^^.

 

[SplitBar]

I imagine you can't address the points in my post if deflection is all you have.
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This ^^^^^^.

All his points have been addressed numerous times over and over and he comes back each time with the same nonsense so it has just become a broken record so it was time for a "whatever". Go back to your 6 legs and selling out your Air Tran brothers. I'll look forward to your broken record responses and if you want them addressed just reread the thread.

 

[SplitBar]

When has scope EVER been temporary?
Know your history-

Unlimited 50 seaters at DCI was temporary. Any other stupid questions, Idiot?

 

[texman]

Hey can't blame Wave. Delta did start the whole DCI mess.

 

[DTW320]

Hey can't blame Wave. Delta did start the whole DCI mess.

Wow. Hard to argue with that logic....Yes. Delta DID start Delta Connection.

 

[waveflyer]

Delta was the first to outsource jets DTW- and now very few kids in college want to follow us into this career.
Again,
Thank you

 

[whymeworry?]

Congrats on your $.10 an hour per diem raise. I'm sure that will cover your costs in places like Japan and the UK.


You'll probably lose 50-100 hrs of pay each year now that pay doesn't start until aircraft movement. Congrats on that fitting achievement as well.

 

[Helos2Galaxy]

yeah I always scrathched my head over the 10 cents; big woop. In Copenhagen it will pay for 4-6 oz. of beer.

 

[SplitBar]

Congrats on your $.10 an hour per diem raise. I'm sure that will cover your costs in places like Japan and the UK.


You'll probably lose 50-100 hrs of pay each year now that pay doesn't start until aircraft movement. Congrats on that fitting achievement as well.

LOL. Leave it to a CAL guy to bash our new contract. Have you read yours lately? It's one of the worst in the industry.

 

[canyonblue]

I gotta and go pick up my parents from their free 1st class flight home from Rome.

Now maybe you will move out of their basement. :laugh:

 

[DTW320]

Delta was the first to outsource jets DTW- and now very few kids in college want to follow us into this career.
Again,
Thank you

Gee wave....since YOU thought it was fine to go fly one yourself to further your goals, I guess all I can say is: Your Welcome!

As for the college kids, good...maybe we'll see that pilot shortage that's been prophesied for so long. That should drive compensation way up don't ya think?

 

[DTW320]

Congrats on your $.10 an hour per diem raise. I'm sure that will cover your costs in places like Japan and the UK.


You'll probably lose 50-100 hrs of pay each year now that pay doesn't start until aircraft movement. Congrats on that fitting achievement as well.

You're right....the perdiem increase was insignificant. But the 20% raise to hourly rates, and the increase in Intl override will help pay some tabs overseas.

By the way, if you could provide a contractual reference to the aircraft movement thingy that would be awesome. Thanks for looking out for us.