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Is there such a thing as a merger going too slowly?




This week, the Travel Diva wonders about the glacial pace of the Delta takeover of Northwest Airlines, which they m-u-s-t ... c-o-m-p-l-e-t-e ... b-y ... zzzzzzzz ...
Wake up, says Betsy Talsin, spokeswoman for Delta Airlines. Announced in April 2008, the merger isn't actually moving in slo-mo. It just has its own legal pace. And look for the biggest changes coming up in December and January.
QUESTION: Airport signs and uniforms have been changed to Delta. Food and fees have been coordinated. But travelers' tickets still say Northwest. When will this merger be finished, anyway?
ANSWER: Actually, we are moving quickly, more quickly than we originally planned. Airlines operate under certificates. By the end of the year we should have a single operating certificate. Until that time, flight operations continue as if they were pre-merger.
Q: If you get the single operating certificate by year's end, when will there be a single reservations system? Right now the Delta and Northwest computers can't talk to each other, even at the airport.
A: We expect to have combined reservations systems by January or February.
Q: Right now, travelers can still buy a Northwest ticket well into next year. What happens when the Northwest brand goes away, say, in February, and all the flights suddenly become Delta?
A: We are trying to make the process seamless for customers. Most flights will stay the same. You mostly likely will be able to use the same reservations.
Q: We know the Northwest WorldPerks frequent flier program will vanish, with all our miles being transferred to Delta SkyMiles. When will it actually happen?
A: December.
Q: Have all the airports been rebranded to Delta? That seems to have happened quickly, in some cases confusing customers who show up for Northwest flights.
A: We've completed the rebranding of more than 200 airports, more than 80% of the total stations. All U.S. airports will be in the Delta brand by the end of the year.
Q: How many planes have been painted Delta colors? Delta executives said in July that 90% of all Northwest planes and half of contract regional carriers will have been painted by December.
A: We've painted 120 in Delta livery (colors).
Contact ELLEN CREAGER: 313-222-6498 or [email protected]


 
Did you not read about them cutting management and likely front line employees?....I really don't call that picking up steam.
 
Did you not read about them cutting management and likely front line employees?....I really don't call that picking up steam.

Did you read about them cutting more than 100 rj's out of the system?
I'd call that picking up steam!
 
Did you not read about them cutting management and likely front line employees?....I really don't call that picking up steam.

Yep-screw everyone. Every employee, investor, and contractor you can find. Pissing people off is sure to give you the most possible "synergy."

-Just wait, Gen-it is coming. First SWA will roll on in, then you will start seeing more and more ALGT planes full of all the passengers your gifted leaders have pissed off... You had better pray every night to whatever you worship that ALGT doesn't get a foothold in your backyard-you will definitely not want to "compete" with any airline so clearly capable of kicking every last ounce of living dog snot out of you.

-7.5 CASM, chief.....You don't want that-anywhere, anyhow.
 
Yep-screw everyone. Every employee, investor, and contractor you can find. Pissing people off is sure to give you the most possible "synergy."

-Just wait, Gen-it is coming. First SWA will roll on in, then you will start seeing more and more ALGT planes full of all the passengers your gifted leaders have pissed off... You had better pray every night to whatever you worship that ALGT doesn't get a foothold in your backyard-you will definitely not want to "compete" with any airline so clearly capable of kicking every last ounce of living dog snot out of you.

-7.5 CASM, chief.....You don't want that-anywhere, anyhow.

And just think, Delta will be cutting more rj's, more than 100.
That means you're out of a job junior.
It's coming, and it will be fun to watch!
 
And just think, Delta will be cutting more rj's, more than 100.
That means you're out of a job junior.
It's coming, and it will be fun to watch!

Not as fun as ALGT and SWA putting your arrogant butt in a soup line, Gen!

-I'll even show you the way around the fry machine-after you get through shining my shoes! (Seniority has its priviledges-even at "McRonald's!)
 
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Not as fun as ALGT and SWA putting your arrogant butt in a soup line, Gen!

-I'll even show you the way around the fry machine-after you get through shining my shoes!


Trust me in ALGT was a threat to anyone, they would be bought much like Reno Air was.
 
Delta and Northwest can take their time, look at the America West/UsAir deal!!!! How many years has it been?
 
And just think, Delta will be cutting more rj's, more than 100.
That means you're out of a job junior.
It's coming, and it will be fun to watch!


RJs replaced during next economic upswing 3,2,1
 
Trust me in ALGT was a threat to anyone, they would be bought much like Reno Air was.

My...My...My...

You really need to learn to read financial stuff, then go and find theirs. I am not saying they would be the best company to work for, but as far as making money goes-they flat out kick ass!
 
Delta and Northwest can take their time, look at the America West/UsAir deal!!!! How many years has it been?

The only thing DAL/NWA have in common with LCC/AWA is the word merger.

BTW, please keep a union out of JB, it will make it so much easier to staple or discard you when we buy you for the JFK slots
 
The only thing DAL/NWA have in common with LCC/AWA is the word merger.

BTW, please keep a union out of JB, it will make it so much easier to staple or discard you when we buy you for the JFK slots


If they were smart it would be the only reason to vote a union in. It would allow an eight year guy to be senior to a 20 year DAL guy.
 
If they were smart it would be the only reason to vote a union in. It would allow an eight year guy to be senior to a 20 year DAL guy.

Hence the word IF!
I mean after Blue Bayou and his BOB buds were so instrumental in bringing so many positives into the industry, especially their attempt at making transcon TURNS a reality!
 
The only thing DAL/NWA have in common with LCC/AWA is the word merger.

BTW, please keep a union out of JB, it will make it so much easier to staple or discard you when we buy you for the JFK slots


That was slightly nasty. I know a couple guys over there and they are really good dudes. Also, jetBlue does a great job getting people to work. I also want us to do well, I just do not wish bad things on others.

Slinky
 
My...My...My...

You really need to learn to read financial stuff, then go and find theirs. I am not saying they would be the best company to work for, but as far as making money goes-they flat out kick ass!


Yeah, Flat OUT....they fly BIG JETS....something you'll never see junior....

Allegiant IS a good company, where were you and that comment maybe a year ago?

Totally different animal.....Delta and Allegiant goes like you and good pilot skills....not even close to being the same.
 
My...My...My...

You really need to learn to read financial stuff, then go and find theirs. I am not saying they would be the best company to work for, but as far as making money goes-they flat out kick ass!

Are you even a pilot? Who care how much the company makes. Look at their pay rates? Why dont you talk your CRJ brothers into getting paid even less so your company can make lots of money! Youre a Moron!

http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/major-national-lcc/allegiant.html
 
Yep-screw everyone. Every employee, investor, and contractor you can find. Pissing people off is sure to give you the most possible "synergy."

-Just wait, Gen-it is coming. First SWA will roll on in, then you will start seeing more and more ALGT planes full of all the passengers your gifted leaders have pissed off... You had better pray every night to whatever you worship that ALGT doesn't get a foothold in your backyard-you will definitely not want to "compete" with any airline so clearly capable of kicking every last ounce of living dog snot out of you.

-7.5 CASM, chief.....You don't want that-anywhere, anyhow.

It's coming, eh? Wow, we have never competed against SWA ever, anywhere. As Scope RJs says, you need to start worrying more about your own job. As Southwest grows, we will dump more and more RJs which are less efficient and cost more (higher CASM). If you are left after all of the parkings, your only trips will take you to BFE cities that Southwest or Airtran wouldn't want to go to, like Albany, GA and Evansville, IN. It will become so boring and repetitive for you, that you will be dreaming about your fry shift and also cleaning the urinal cakes and dipping them in ranch sauce. It will be pathetic. Enjoy!

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
The only thing DAL/NWA have in common with LCC/AWA is the word merger.

BTW, please keep a union out of JB, it will make it so much easier to staple or discard you when we buy you for the JFK slots

ALPA really helped those TWA and ATA guys during their merger/aquisitions... How many TWA folks are at AA now? How many ATA guys/gals are at SWA? How much love is there at Cactus?
 
See that is the difference. An ALPA carrier and a non-ALPA carrier.

I say go for an in house union. Fact is that if TWA or ATA would have been acquired by a ALPA carrier their status in the SLI would have been a lot better.


I typed more, but I will let you figure the rest out.
 
The only thing DAL/NWA have in common with LCC/AWA is the word merger.

BTW, please keep a union out of JB, it will make it so much easier to staple or discard you when we buy you for the JFK slots
Why, so your management can add more rj's there?
 
ALPA really helped those TWA and ATA guys during their merger/aquisitions... How many TWA folks are at AA now? How many ATA guys/gals are at SWA? How much love is there at Cactus?

Well, when you end up in arbitration over SLI integration who's gonna represent you? McCaskill Bond provides a process, not an outcome. I would think you guys would want some sort of collective bargaining agent going into that.

Fair and Equitable is an interpretive target. I'll take my ALPA MEC and their collective strength and assets vs. 200) individual contracts in an SLI arbitration. Good luck if you ever go there.
 
How is it that Delta didn't have to give any gates up in Atl? Shows you the dirty BS politics Delta is involved in. Should have had to give up at least 3 gates in Atl. Unless im wrong I don't think they gave any up.
 
That does not mean they will not swap gates on D for gets on F when it opens.
Like the three NWA gates for international gates and there ya go, three gates for SWA!
 
Well, when you end up in arbitration over SLI integration who's gonna represent you? McCaskill Bond provides a process, not an outcome. I would think you guys would want some sort of collective bargaining agent going into that.

Fair and Equitable is an interpretive target. I'll take my ALPA MEC and their collective strength and assets vs. 200) individual contracts in an SLI arbitration. Good luck if you ever go there.

Awww, come on, Gen Lee would make the perfect negotiator.... He would give up scope, pay, retirement, and pretty much anything else you ask for if he could just get one front-page article in the AJC telling everyone how freaking great he is.
 
Awww, come on, Gen Lee would make the perfect negotiator.... He would give up scope, pay, retirement, and pretty much anything else you ask for if he could just get one front-page article in the AJC telling everyone how freaking great he is.


I think I liked it better when you posted under Tanker Clown...Less,when you change your name that makes me add another to my ignore list.

Oh, how is it polishing that General's knob, I mean shoes these days or have you moved on to more important things like pumping the neighbor's dog? Fact is you will hate on every airline since you will never be a part of one...sad really.

And now on to the control panel to add you to my ignore list, again.
 
Maybe a little off topic but does anyone know how long the "differences training" for DAL Flight Attendants is learning the new NWA planes?
 
Xfr8dog:

Assume U did not get furloughed? How is the airline biz going?

I'm schd to have my base moved to DBX in a couple of weeks.

cliff
NBO
 
Yep-screw everyone. Every employee, investor, and contractor you can find. Pissing people off is sure to give you the most possible "synergy."

-Just wait, Gen-it is coming. First SWA will roll on in, then you will start seeing more and more ALGT planes full of all the passengers your gifted leaders have pissed off... You had better pray every night to whatever you worship that ALGT doesn't get a foothold in your backyard-you will definitely not want to "compete" with any airline so clearly capable of kicking every last ounce of living dog snot out of you.

-7.5 CASM, chief.....You don't want that-anywhere, anyhow.

Delta is cutting RJ's and will grow mainline. Less low paying jobs, more better paying jobs.
How is that screwing?
Ask anyone - more better paying jobs is a plus for any company.
 
Its not screwing, its good news! ( if it transpires )

Less regional flying and more mainline flying is a good thing...

Anyone who takes a job at a regional should know: its basicly contract work, someone else owns the flying ( its not theirs to own in the first place) and can change the deal as they see fit when $$ is involved.... regionals grow and shrink, no one is entitled to "certain flying" at the regionals... its all owned by mainline anyway.

So knowing this, it should not be a suprise when cuts are made or flying is shifted around at regionals...its part of the deal. Its part of life in this industry, be prepared and adapt as needed.
 

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