Delta MD80 Slides off Taxiway in IND

[100-1/2]

"he made it possible"

So it was the good Senator from Idaho, was it?

Please, someone copy this over to the military threads where someone will call this BS. @ 1700hrs, you haven't lived long enough to teach much less evaluate the bluejuice recycled from a KC10 back from Iraq.

A long(er) distinguished commission with a flight status' would require 2x what you got given the tempo AMC has been on since 9/11.

Buzz off! Poser.

100-1/2

 

[dalad]

I did some very important work back in DC and that he made it possible for me to achieve rank and it has also pretty much assured me the airline job of choice after I retire.

Whoever wanted to know if I made AC...yes, I did. In fact, I have been an IP in both tankers and even an evaluator. When you learn how to play the game, you tend to see the rewards. I'm not sure why you guys get so spun up on my flight time. Let's be frank. Flying is a simple job. It's blue collar. Sure there can be some intense moments when the wx is bad or there's a mechanical....but 99% of the time it's a piece of cake. So I would put my 1750+ hours as a military pilot with my contacts and resume up against any guy coming out of some regional jet.

Except and I mean EXCEPT, as an evaluator-if you really were one-you could go hide under your desk if the WX went under 500/1.5. you are nothing but a yssup.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Everytime I see you've posted I see my tax dollars going down the drain. This much time on your hands during business hours means you're completely expendable to any unit you belong to. Nice career you've had.

Time is not the only thing this jerkoff has on his hands!:laugh:

 

[atrdriver]

Whoever wanted to know if I made AC...yes, I did. In fact, I have been an IP in both tankers and even an evaluator. When you learn how to play the game, you tend to see the rewards. I'm not sure why you guys get so spun up on my flight time. Let's be frank. Flying is a simple job. It's blue collar. Sure there can be some intense moments when the wx is bad or there's a mechanical....but 99% of the time it's a piece of cake. So I would put my 1750+ hours as a military pilot with my contacts and resume up against any guy coming out of some regional jet.

And have you ever landed on a runway that had GOOD braking action reports and hit a patch of ice? I have, several times. If you had a little more experience flying instead of sniffing a congressman's underwear maybe you would have too.

I say good job to the DAL crew for keeping the pax calm and getting everyone off with no injuries.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Remember that IND just opened its new terminal last most. It could have been an unfamiliar taxiway too. Add to that a little ice, and how well the MD likes to make sharp turns and there you have it!

 

[ASA_DFW]

I guess Tanker Clown was not at the top of his AF class. All of the captains I have flown with that were in the AF said the tanker guys were the bottom of the AF caste system. No respect. I guess he needs attention of FI because he had none in the military.

 

[Tanker Clown]

ACLPILOT,

If this was the case, they should have used the 5 P's.

Prior Planning Prevents Poor Performance

Take a look at the taxi diagram.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

I have and I have gone in there since the new terminal opened, on a 757.

 

[~~~^~~~]

Remember that IND just opened its new terminal last most. It could have been an unfamiliar taxiway too. Add to that a little ice, and how well the MD likes to make sharp turns and there you have it!

True, and witnesses were talking about "black ice."

 

[N1atEcon]

So I would put my 1750+ hours as a military pilot with my contacts and resume up against any guy coming out of some regional jet.

LOL. Shows how little you know about this industy. I would chose the RJ guy over you anytime. Especially on a dark and stormy night. You take a Horizon or Skywest guy with the same 1700 hrs and they will fly circles around you in hard IMC. they do it all the time at night in the MTs carring a ton of ice, landing at mins, with poor braking action. How many times have you done that?

 

[Tanker Clown]

LOL. Shows how little you know about this industy. I would chose the RJ guy over you anytime. Especially on a dark and stormy night. You take a Horizon or Skywest guy with the same 1700 hrs and they will fly circles around you in hard IMC. they do it all the time at night in the MTs carring a ton of ice, landing at mins, with poor braking action. How many times have you done that?

I very seriously doubt that. A military guys is a known quantity with the greatest training in the world. Who knows what I get from a UND grad with a CFII and time in a Saab. Look at guys like me. World wide experience in heavy Boeing equipment.

I'm not worried at all about finding major airline employment post AF retirement. As long as the airlines are hiring, then I will get on.

 

[Tanker Clown]

I have and I have gone in there since the new terminal opened, on a 757.

Maybe these guys didn't.

 

[landlover]

tanker clown go play in traffic, this is grown man talk.

 

[007]

TankerClown,

that's an amazing ego you got, where can I become as cool as you?

 

[anewunion]

Very accurate, thanks for that.

I'm on it....

 

[FO 4 Life]

I very seriously doubt that. A military guys is a known quantity with the greatest training in the world. Who knows what I get from a UND grad with a CFII and time in a Saab. Look at guys like me. World wide experience in heavy Boeing equipment.

I flew with a AF pointy nose type last winter. One night it was basically "holy S**t, we're not stopping". He had never flown to icy runways in his fighter. Everyone learns, some later than others. If you've never done or seen something ask the guy/gal next to you. Might save your hide.

BTW, not a UND type, but I have about 6000 hours in a Saab. Thanks for asking.

 

[FSIGRAD]

Not to defend Tanker clown but I do know a guy who did over 20 years in the Air force, everything from A-6's to A-10's and at the end of his career he only had around 5000 hours of flight time. I think harrier pilots average about 8 hours a month.

 

[Tanker Clown]

TankerClown,

that's an amazing ego you got, where can I become as cool as you?

Not possible.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Dude go get the Four Star his coffee. He is waiting!

 

[WMUSIGPI]

I thought Delta merged with Northwest not Pinnacle....








Kidding guys.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

Well, we are approaching the time of the year that we'll see pictures of a NW DC-9 off the runway at some midwestern airport...


No one ever gets hurt...it's just one of those indicators of how you know it's winter time!



That being said... I remember a number of times taxiing very slowly around contaminated taxiways, turning the nosewheel, and the airplane just kept going in the direction it was already going. Definitely causes a bit of a butt-pucker.

 

[patrickdc9]

Anybody know what the braking reports were in Indy at the time of their landing?

I know in the past when I had landed in icy conditions the rule is to not turn off the center line until you're slowed to a crawl. If you have to pass up a taxiway and take the next one, do it. Even if it means someone behind you going around, too bad.

I landed in IND at about 10:30 pm on Tuesday night, I think we landed on 5R and reported the braking as "poor". They had freezing rain falling all night.

 

[SKYWRJGUY]

Achieve rank? I spent 7 1/2 yrs in the AF and never once heard that term. I "was promoted" or "reached XXX", or "am an O4". First two promotions are gimmes, and given the selection rate to O4, that one is nearly a gimme as well as long as your nose is clean. I've flown with military guys and civilian guys, and neither is really better with 4000 hrs or better; I've seen bad judgment and skills in the cocky military types and the green civilian types. An instruct/evaluator with 1750 TT is still learning a plane, let alone two of them. If you're really a tanker guy, how did you even hit your flying 'gates' with so few hours and still take a Pentagon job?

I'd agree with everybody else here: knob (and probably a phony). The only thing you appear to do well...[at a loss to finish]...

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Achieve rank?

Tanker Clown uses that term when its time for his diaper change!

I spent 7 1/2 yrs in the AF and never once heard that term. I "was promoted" or "reached XXX", or "am an O4". First two promotions are gimmes, and given the selection rate to O4, that one is nearly a gimme as well as long as your nose is clean.

Tanker clown was promoted from toilet scrubber to coffee server.

I've flown with military guys and civilian guys, and neither is really better with 4000 hrs or better; I've seen bad judgment and skills in the cocky military types and the green civilian types. An instruct/evaluator with 1750 TT is still learning a plane, let alone two of them. If you're really a tanker guy, how did you even hit your flying 'gates' with so few hours and still take a Pentagon job?

Tanker Clown's abilities aren't in the cockpit, they're on Flight Sim 2000. He's pretty good. Got that good wrist action from all his "extra carricular" activities and "back door favors."

I'd agree with everybody else here: knob (and probably a phony). The only thing you appear to do well...[at a loss to finish]...

He's also quite good at making himself look like a complete ***********************************!

 

[Tanker Clown]

Who said I was an O-4. I'm past that rank and probably going to go higher before I retire. Your gates don't have a minimum number of hours required to meet the gates. Flying is a piece of cake. At least for me anyway. Maybe it takes you 4000 hours to master your craft. For me it's always been easy.

 

[PropPiedmont]

I guess I should've posted this here. Didn't realize you were this popular with the Delta guys too.

Tanker Clown, How long have you been at Southwest? I just figured out that you are an employee of Southwest Airlines. That's so frickin' hilarious, you've been firing up all these Southwest guys, and you're one of them.

Classic.

 

[nitefr8dog]

Who said I was an O-4. I'm past that rank and probably going to go higher before I retire. Your gates don't have a minimum number of hours required to meet the gates. Flying is a piece of cake. At least for me anyway. Maybe it takes you 4000 hours to master your craft. For me it's always been easy.

My personal experience at three airlines and a check airman on 4 differant types of aircraft, you will not get through training/sim/ioe without extra training. The ex regional pilots were the sharpest then ex airline. Low time Airforce sucked as pilots!

 

[Tanker Clown]

My personal experience at three airlines and a check airman on 4 differant types of aircraft, you will not get through training/sim/ioe without extra training. The ex regional pilots were the sharpest then ex airline. Low time Airforce sucked as pilots!

We'll see. There's no way these training programs are nearly as tough as AF training. From what I've heard, the pass rate is pretty much 100%.

On a somewhat related note, do they have some sort of Distinguished Graduate program for new hire training at Delta? If so, is it like for the very top guy or the top 10% or so of the class?

 

[MJ42]

We'll see. There's no way these training programs are nearly as tough as AF training. From what I've heard, the pass rate is pretty much 100%.

On a somewhat related note, do they have some sort of Distinguished Graduate program for new hire training at Delta? If so, is it like for the very top guy or the top 10% or so of the class?

Where did you go to UPT?

 

[GCD]

I very seriously doubt that. A military guys is a known quantity with the greatest training in the world. Who knows what I get from a UND grad with a CFII and time in a Saab. Look at guys like me. World wide experience in heavy Boeing equipment.

I'm not worried at all about finding major airline employment post AF retirement. As long as the airlines are hiring, then I will get on.

Yeah, that World-wide experience in a Boeing...Been there, done it. My proficiency isn't near what it was when I was a Saab CA with eight landings a day in ice.

Your'e just a flamer. I wouldn't doubt that you are an AF O-5. You have all the traits of an a**. With your attitude, I would be worried about finding a major airline job.