Delta Love Field Expansion

[dicko]

ole Floppy is going to have some reading for you. I'm gonna get mid evil on your a$$es. That's right, I'm going to a library.

While you're at the library, look up "mid evil" in a dictionary.

 

[redflyer65]

PMFJI on yet another DL vs SW love fest. But you're comparing apples to oranges. SW is a LCC serving a handful of cherry picked US cities
DL is a global carrier serving 6 continents.
DL has a market cap worth nearly double that of SW.
DL is a Fortune 500 corporation, SW is not.
DL will be near 900 mainline aircraft in just 4 years. SW will not.
So, yes, we have RJ's, code shares, etc.
When you start serving more than just a few cherry picked US cities, operating various fleets, and are back in growth mode, get back to me. You're no comparison.
Now, back to DL vs SW or is it Red vs GL? I've stopped paying attention

Scoot,

Do you type it, and therefore it's fact?

Your entire post is a justification for oursourcing and codeshare. Maybe it helps you sleep at night...but it's still BS.

Southwest 'cherrypicking'? You mean we decide where we'd like to fly that's profitable and Delta doesn't? See how silly your argument sounds?

Aircraft orders? Yea, SW doesn't have over 500 orders for a company that what, half the size of DL. You forgot that part about SW carrying more domestic passengers than any other US carrier.....by far. No one else is even close Scoot. Check it out.

And for your big falsehood....

Southwest Airlines is number 164 on the Fortune 500 list. Maybe you should have checked first. Did you just pull this out of your arse?

I was done with this thread, but you posted so much BS that I got pulled back in. Thanks.

 

[scoreboardII]

PMFJI on yet another DL vs SW love fest. But you're comparing apples to oranges. SW is a LCC serving a handful of cherry picked US cities
DL is a global carrier serving 6 continents.
DL has a market cap worth nearly double that of SW.
DL is a Fortune 500 corporation, SW is not.
DL will be near 900 mainline aircraft in just 4 years. SW will not.
So, yes, we have RJ's, code shares, etc.
When you start serving more than just a few cherry picked US cities, operating various fleets, and are back in growth mode, get back to me. You're no comparison.
Now, back to DL vs SW or is it Red vs GL? I've stopped paying attention

Besides the obvious lie, SWA is a fortune 500 company, maybe you forgot SWA flies more domestic passengers than any other US carrier? Cherry picked cities, oh.... you mean the ones your airline flies to as well? Or are do you want us flying into the ones Obama pays you to fly into?

When your pilots are flying your passengers, not an outsourced RJ pilot, get back to us.

And I think your CEO makes plenty of decisions based on what SWA does or does not do, thereby rendering your "no comparison" comment intellectually dishonest.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Cherry picked is about right.....don't deny it.

You carry the most passengers because as you connect people between cities you call them all originating passengers, not connecting since you deny a hub and spoke label. This was SWA managements words during the Wright argument.

 

[redflyer65]

Your right Bill, we double count everybody.

Want three legs? We'll count you three times!

Or are you talking about the 'Original' Wright Amendment that px couldn't be booked thru other cities? That ended years ago. 2006 I believe. Dallas passengers have been booked thru to their final destination for years.

 

[scoreboardII]

Cherry picked is about right.....don't deny it.

You carry the most passengers because as you connect people between cities you call them all originating passengers, not connecting since you deny a hub and spoke label. This was SWA managements words during the Wright argument.

Not true, DOT statistic only counts originating passengers.

 

[canyonblue]

DL is a global carrier serving 6 continents.
DL has a market cap worth nearly double that of SW.
DL is a Fortune 500 corporation, SW is not.
DL will be near 900 mainline aircraft in just 4 years. SW will not.

How did you ever go bankrupt with all that glory? uke:

 

[Scoot 11]

Yes ladies (redflyer65 /Canyonblue), you cherry pick! You fly to 89 cities in 42 states! Hardly a world dominated carrier!
Yes ladies, you carry more passengers in the DOMESTIC US! Hardly a world carrier!
Yes ladies, your market cap is worth less than 1/2 that of Delta. Hardly a world carrier!
You had to pay for your job. Something that a lot of regional airlines do. Hardly a world carrier!
Your etops program has been scrapped! Hardly a world carrier!
Your 10 years of massive growth and pompous attitude are coming home to an abrupt hault. You have ZERO growth! Your massive Atlanta invasion has crashed and burned, much like your upgrade chances!
You are a regional airline, who's CEO is crying about pay cuts and cutting costs!
You are looking at massive stagnation. Enjoy that f/o seat at your regional airline, because you're gonna be there for a loooooooooong time...And by the way, from your next Air Tran captain, you'll hear, "gear up bitch!":laugh:
Don't let facts get in the way of your nut drainer, ladies!

 

[Beech Balls]

Enjoy that f/o seat at your regional airline, because you're gonna be there for a loooooooooong time...And by the way, from your next Air Tran captain, you'll hear, "gear up bitch!":laugh:
Don't let facts get in the way of your nut drainer, ladies!

but, but, but....do your people make $120-170,000/year in that right seat?
do your people enjoy 18 days off while on reserve?
maybe they do. I have no idea.

And MOST (not all obviously) A/T captains are happy to be over at SWA. They've had their pick of the schedule as top seniority FOs, and will soon be most of the upgrading contingent.
Wait till they get a taste of that left-seat pay...wooohoooo. People might sing a different tune shortly.

 

[redflyer65]

Yes ladies (redflyer65 /Canyonblue), you cherry pick! You fly to 89 cities in 42 states! Hardly a world dominated carrier!
Yes ladies, you carry more passengers in the DOMESTIC US! Hardly a world carrier!
Yes ladies, your market cap is worth less than 1/2 that of Delta. Hardly a world carrier!
You had to pay for your job. Something that a lot of regional airlines do. Hardly a world carrier!
Your etops program has been scrapped! Hardly a world carrier!
Your 10 years of massive growth and pompous attitude are coming home to an abrupt hault. You have ZERO growth! Your massive Atlanta invasion has crashed and burned, much like your upgrade chances!
You are a regional airline, who's CEO is crying about pay cuts and cutting costs!
You are looking at massive stagnation. Enjoy that f/o seat at your regional airline, because you're gonna be there for a loooooooooong time...And by the way, from your next Air Tran captain, you'll hear, "gear up bitch!":laugh:
Don't let facts get in the way of your nut drainer, ladies!

Scoot,

You got called out for falsifying the facts and then try to throw spin back (ala the General). Who said SW was a world carrier? You arguing with yourself again?

Just man-up and tell us you got it wrong, or stick with your crap/spin and continue with little to no respect. Kinda like the General...yet again.

 

[Scoot 11]

Scoot,

You got called out for falsifying the facts and then try to throw spin back (ala the General). Who said SW was a world carrier? You arguing with yourself again?

Just man-up and tell us you got it wrong, or stick with your crap/spin and continue with little to no respect. Kinda like the General...yet again.

Red:
I'll leave you to play with yourself. You're pretty good at that. You and the rest of the SW pompous attitude is coming back at you girls with a vengance! Kharma is a real bitch!
There's no spin. What I spoke was fact. Enjoy that f/o seat at your regional for the rest of what's left at your career, and stagnation!
AMF!

 

[SWA Bubba]

Yes ladies (redflyer65 /Canyonblue), you cherry pick! You fly to 89 cities in 42 states! Hardly a world dominated carrier!
Yes ladies, you carry more passengers in the DOMESTIC US! Hardly a world carrier!
Yes ladies, your market cap is worth less than 1/2 that of Delta. Hardly a world carrier!
You had to pay for your job. Something that a lot of regional airlines do. Hardly a world carrier!
Your etops program has been scrapped! Hardly a world carrier!
Your 10 years of massive growth and pompous attitude are coming home to an abrupt hault. You have ZERO growth! Your massive Atlanta invasion has crashed and burned, much like your upgrade chances!
You are a regional airline, who's CEO is crying about pay cuts and cutting costs!
You are looking at massive stagnation. Enjoy that f/o seat at your regional airline, because you're gonna be there for a loooooooooong time...And by the way, from your next Air Tran captain, you'll hear, "gear up bitch!":laugh:
Don't let facts get in the way of your nut drainer, ladies!

Good God, Scoot--- you're turning into General Lee. All you need to do now is to trash Lubbock, say "FANTASTIC" a few times, and your transformation to the dark side will be complete.

Bubba

 

[EngineThunder]

He still didnt answer the question: how does a dominent world carrier end up Bankrupt?

 

[scoreboardII]

Yes ladies (redflyer65 /Canyonblue), you cherry pick! You fly to 89 cities in 42 states! Hardly a world dominated carrier!
Yes ladies, you carry more passengers in the DOMESTIC US! Hardly a world carrier!
Yes ladies, your market cap is worth less than 1/2 that of Delta. Hardly a world carrier!
You had to pay for your job. Something that a lot of regional airlines do. Hardly a world carrier!
Your etops program has been scrapped! Hardly a world carrier!
Your 10 years of massive growth and pompous attitude are coming home to an abrupt hault. You have ZERO growth! Your massive Atlanta invasion has crashed and burned, much like your upgrade chances!
You are a regional airline, who's CEO is crying about pay cuts and cutting costs!
You are looking at massive stagnation. Enjoy that f/o seat at your regional airline, because you're gonna be there for a loooooooooong time...And by the way, from your next Air Tran captain, you'll hear, "gear up bitch!":laugh:
Don't let facts get in the way of your nut drainer, ladies!

Where to begin:

Never said SWA was a world airline, your lie number one.

SWA CEO has never asked for pay-cuts, instead latest letter says just the opposite, your lie number two.

Market CAP is only half the story: DAL market CAP: $24B, but a net tangible asset value of negative $17B, a true company value of only $7B.

SWA on the other hand has a market CAP of $12.9B, with a balance sheet of positive $6B, basically valued at $19B.

Essentially, SWA could BUY DAL outright. Your lie number three.

Never had to pay for my job, your lie number four.

ETOPS program is on hold, not scrapped, and we are still taking ETOPs deliveries. Your lie number five.

SWA has slowed growth, except for that pesky little merger, which means we just grew by 1700 pilots in the last two years, how about DAL? Your like number six.

We are upgrading two classes of 20-24 a month, your lie seven.

SWA doesn't outsource it's flying, lie eight. We are not an RJ airline, lie nine. Last but not least, there will never be an AirTran captain flying a SWA jet, only SWA captains, lie ten.

Scoot, the "town Liar".

 

[scoreboardII]

He still didnt answer the question: how does a dominent world carrier end up Bankrupt?

Holding a steady $16,000,000,000 in negative equity on the books, that's how.

 

[redflyer65]

Red:
I'll leave you to play with yourself. You're pretty good at that. You and the rest of the SW pompous attitude is coming back at you girls with a vengance! Kharma is a real bitch!
There's no spin. What I spoke was fact. Enjoy that f/o seat at your regional for the rest of what's left at your career, and stagnation!
AMF!

Karma? Yea, I'm hurtin' Scoot. To the tune of having weekends off with 180k and I'm not even half way up the payscale. Huge profit sharing this year as well. I think we'll be fine, but thanks for your concern. Didn't you give back some profit sharing in the last contract? Enjoy being number five for departure behind those large RJ's. I was just in the ATL and I couldn't believe the feed. Cheers!

 

[General Lee]

Good God, Scoot--- you're turning into General Lee. All you need to do now is to trash Lubbock, say "FANTASTIC" a few times, and your transformation to the dark side will be complete.

Bubba

Hahhahaha! Great, my continuous use of those words and phrases has had it's desired effect, being stuck in a Corndog's mind. Enjoy FANTASTIC LUBBOCK. Su-wheat!


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Karma? Yea, I'm hurtin' Scoot. To the tune of having weekends off with 180k and I'm not even half way up the payscale. Huge profit sharing this year as well. I think we'll be fine, but thanks for your concern. Didn't you give back some profit sharing in the last contract? Enjoy being number five for departure behind those large RJ's. I was just in the ATL and I couldn't believe the feed. Cheers!

Red,

Just to clear it up for you, there was a giveback of the % of profit sharing from 15% of the pie to 10%, unless the net profit (per tax) was above $2.5 billion, then that amount above $2.5 billion is at 20%. Last year the average profit sharing check was about 4.5% of the individual's W2, primarily due to the 1st Quarter loss due to the Japanese Tsunami and resulting down turn of flying in Japan. Since then, things have changed. Profits are way up, and the actual pie is larger than last year, plus the profits may go past that $2.5 billion mark. Rumor has it the next check will be larger than last year, possibly 6-7% of this year's W2. Throw in a 16.5% raise since the beginning of last year, and things are better pay wise.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[canyonblue]

Yes ladies (redflyer65 /Canyonblue), you cherry pick! You fly to 89 cities in 42 states! Hardly a world dominated carrier!
Yes ladies, you carry more passengers in the DOMESTIC US! Hardly a world carrier!
Yes ladies, your market cap is worth less than 1/2 that of Delta. Hardly a world carrier!
You had to pay for your job. Something that a lot of regional airlines do. Hardly a world carrier!
Your etops program has been scrapped! Hardly a world carrier!
Your 10 years of massive growth and pompous attitude are coming home to an abrupt hault. You have ZERO growth! Your massive Atlanta invasion has crashed and burned, much like your upgrade chances!
You are a regional airline, who's CEO is crying about pay cuts and cutting costs!
You are looking at massive stagnation. Enjoy that f/o seat at your regional airline, because you're gonna be there for a loooooooooong time...And by the way, from your next Air Tran captain, you'll hear, "gear up bitch!":laugh:
Don't let facts get in the way of your nut drainer, ladies!

Yet you Delto guys end up on all of ours SWA threads, hurling insults and childish rants. I'm quite glad we upset you so much, loos like we are doing our job. What's up at Delto lately? I couldn't care less. Remember what Elenor Roosevelt said, "No one can make you feel inferior, except a Southwest pilot".

 

[Dan Roman]

Yeah, well I'm hung like a horse and you should see the size watch I have.....