Delta is getting ready to hire!!!

[ACL65PILOT]

agreed on the 300-400 number, but it will be Jan 2011 not ´10.

If they wait that long the hiring will be very robust.

As for if. It makes sense for DAL to wait. It is better to run short, than to add fat. If we are 100 short that is actually more like 260 short. Our EVP of flt Ops like to run the Operation with 80 more than really needed. Add the North and the South together ~160 plus the 100 and we are getting to a number of bodies required that is very hard to make up with Green Slips.

It has been looked at but no decision has been made. When a decision has been made, it will be made public to the masses.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

As of last week...(from one of the Reps)

We're fat through the winter, but unless the recover completely tanks, we'll be short as soon as May.

Don't really need much in the way of a/c orders to ramp up flying dramatically because we have low utilization right now and the company needs to pay down debt as a lot of cash is going towards interest.

Having said that, they recognize that it's a buyer's market right now and they are ready to jump on any opportunities that might arise. (Like LGA for example.)

Exactly. Our utilization rates are way down. Add to that the 50 jets we are planning on returning to service that are in the desert, we could add a ton of flying with out adding one jet to the mainline fleet. If we did that we would need 800-1000 bodies without too much work.

 

[Cobraair75drvr]

You guys can fight all you want (ala, lcc) or have a set time frame, pick your arbitrators, negotiate, mediate and arbitrate. In the end it will be relative sen. This has been the case in the last two and will be the case going forward. As far as legacies, I would rather be here than anywhere else. Not a kool aid drinker but think the lack of overlap of our routes and thinning out the redundant rj flying is a step in the right direction for this industry. I do think a cal/ual merge could be equally good, maybe better with the right leadership. I do think AA is in a bind if this happens. Organic growth would be very expensive/risky and a merger with the train wreck that is lcc might be worse.

Yah, no doubt ours is next. And of course I know it won't be pretty. In fact, I think it will be an all-out war on the SLI front. But until the merger is announced, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

Don't take it so personally. Just follow the financial data. If you were an investor in DAL, would you be happy right now? One cannot ignore their massive debt burden. They will likely renegotiate most of it on terms but the debt still remains.

Anderson makes $13.2 million on the deal, everyone else is left holding the bag wondering whether this global behemoth is going to work.

Yeah, financially DAL is a sick cow. So are most airlines in the US but DAL, by far, has the highest financial hurdles in front of them. I'm not saying I think they will fail. Not by a longshot. I just think the transaction (merger), THUS FAR, is proving to be a poor decision. But time will tell. Hopefully, for your sake and that of all my DAL buddies, the deal willl work.

Don't shoot the messenger. The financial data is publicly available info.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Yeah, and we do not have 44 billion in debt. Go read the 10K or 10Q

 

[Whine Lover]

Meanwhile, in this weeks Aviation Week and Space Technology, Michael Lowry is not painting as rosy a picture as some airline executives are for the 2010 timeframe.

He is confident that oil will hit the $90.00 mark, and that the demand for seats will not even match the reduced capacity that is already in place.

YKMKR

 

[ACL65PILOT]

International is still really weak. Domestic is making money.

As ofr international, I have seen a 3000 bump in a round trip business class seat from ORD to FRA over the last two months. The demand must be there for that type of jump!

 

[ACL65PILOT]

I think that the first two and a half quarters will be moderately weak for international travel with a strong uptick later next year. That is where you will see some decent growth.

 

[ATLboeing]

Anybody have any retirement forecast numbers? I think a lot of senior folks at Delta took the buy-out deal, but I'm curious about how top heavy you are on the Northwest side.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

Most of the guys that took the early out would have already been gone by now.

Someone posted the numbers the other day... there are 4 years in a row of 800+ in the late 20-teens.

 

[BE200drvr]

Recsession followed by putting airplanes back into service. Haha. Wake up General! You have no idea about the economy and how that pertains to Delta's operation. Try doing some more research on the economy and get back to all of us in 18 months.

QUOTE=General Lee;1910302]We are 1000 pilots fat for this season, not for the upcoming Spring/Summer. We have pulled back many planes this Fall and into Winter because of the Recession, but most if not all of them will be back in service in 2010, and we are getting 9 extra MD90s and 2 777s. Our Summer 2010 schedule is supposedly 7% larger than 2009's.


Bye Bye--General Lee[/QUOTE]

 

[BE200drvr]

We have the credit to restructure our debt. A lot of airlines do not. Did you buy your house in cash? Riiiiiight. It is all about making current payments, and if you are able to extend that timeline, all the better. I think you need to take a job on CNBC----you sure seem like the next Kramer.... And let me get this straight? You don't think our merger has worked? You don't? I think most people disagree with you, and many other airlines are watching this to see if it is right for them too. A small recession has hit during the middle of it, but when that is over better things will happen, and we do have more than $5 billion in cash to cover us until then. Listen Kramer, if you really need to do some "due diligence", take a look at how likely it is for you to get a date, with a girl.....

Bye Bye---General Lee

I like where you say "small recession" ... rrrrright it show your true ignorance. Most people are unaware what kind of storm has been brewing. We are in the calm of the storm. Come talk to me in a few months when the dollar is debasing, FHA is looking for a bailout, Unemployment is around 20% etc. etc. etc. Airlines will have a different shape then. All said and done we will have a recession that none of us have ever seen before and the party will be over. Especially for Delta.

Shows your true ignorance....

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

I like where you say "small recession" ... rrrrright it show your true ignorance. Most people are unaware what kind of storm has been brewing. We are in the calm of the storm. Come talk to me in a few months when the dollar is debasing, FHA is looking for a bailout, Unemployment is around 20% etc. etc. etc. Airlines will have a different shape then. All said and done we will have a recession that none of us have ever seen before and the party will be over. Especially for Delta.

Shows your true ignorance....

The world is ending!!!!

 

[FBN0223]

I like where you say "small recession" ... rrrrright it show your true ignorance. Most people are unaware what kind of storm has been brewing. We are in the calm of the storm. Come talk to me in a few months when the dollar is debasing, FHA is looking for a bailout, Unemployment is around 20% etc. etc. etc. Airlines will have a different shape then. All said and done we will have a recession that none of us have ever seen before and the party will be over. Especially for Delta.

Shows your true ignorance....

Another guy that couldn't get hired. Hey, nice Flight Safety "Crew" Tag!!!

 

[BE200drvr]

Another guy that couldn't get hired. Hey, nice Flight Safety "Crew" Tag!!!

I won't comment on my personal success and what I'm worth...
Because in the end, its not about what we have in our 401 K or how many cars we have. Its about family and friends and take care of those close to you.If only people like yourself would open your eyes. I'm not going to look for bragging rights. I wish you luck at Delta, but you sir are not on the hiring board, or do you make the necessary decisions regarding Cap and trade with Delta? 20% unemployment... who is going to fly on your airline when the fear sets in and the dollar is flatlining.....

Please start doing your research, here are two ways to start.

http://www.trendsresearch.com/

www.europac.net

Good luck ,

You won't hear from me again...

 

[BE200drvr]

The world is ending!!!!

Continue to put your trust in Obama... See where that gets you.

Change....YEAHHHHH

Start thinking for yourself.

 

[EMBpilot]

I heard of 60 MD90's
DC9-30/40 staying for the next 18 months
787 conversion into 777 orders

Does that change anything? May be Delta will be hiring soon afterall, esp. with new rest rules coming?

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

Continue to put your trust in Obama... See where that gets you.

Change....YEAHHHHH

Start thinking for yourself.

I don't trust him, didn't vote for him and would never vote for him. However:

The end of the world loonies are always screaming and hollering from either the right of the left, depending on who's in power.

One of these days they'll probably be right, I'm sure...but are you sure it's this time?- I heard it was going to be under Bush for the 8 years before this...and I heard it was going to be under Clinton before that....

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Continue to put your trust in Obama... See where that gets you.

Change....YEAHHHHH

Start thinking for yourself.

Wow, another alarmist. Oil was going to $250 dollars a barrel. The polar caps were going to melt. The earth was going to start another ice age. Glenn Beck has 10 different scenarios EVERY BROADCAST about how the world is going to end and we are going to be in a Mad max post apocalyptic society (same stuff for the last 5 years, and I am still here). How do you guys make it through the day worrying about all this stuff? If all the scenarios you quoted come true THE WORLD ECONOMY WILL COLLAPSE and i don't care where you have your money. China sits on close to 100 billion US dollars and almost a trillion dollars in US bonds. Collapsing the dollar would collapse our AND their whole system. Just watch as in less than a year the Gold bubble will collapse as well. People always trying to scare everyone into buying their book, investment, watch their broadcast, or be in their therapy. People need to to get off the internet and 24 hour a day news programs and go for a hike, or play with their kids.

 

[General Lee]

I like where you say "small recession" ... rrrrright it show your true ignorance. Most people are unaware what kind of storm has been brewing. We are in the calm of the storm. Come talk to me in a few months when the dollar is debasing, FHA is looking for a bailout, Unemployment is around 20% etc. etc. etc. Airlines will have a different shape then. All said and done we will have a recession that none of us have ever seen before and the party will be over. Especially for Delta.

Shows your true ignorance....

The SMALL part was sarcastic, but I guess you not understanding this SHOWS YOUR TRUE IGNORANCE. Oh wait a second, maybe you didn't get what I stated.......IT SHOWS YOUR TRUE IGNORANCE. Get some sleep Sean Hanity...


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Continue to put your trust in Obama... See where that gets you.

Change....YEAHHHHH

Start thinking for yourself.

The best part when Bush ended his 2nd term was when his Sec of the Treasury Paulson helped his banking buddies get huge bonuses, even though those companies were failing. There was NO oversight under Bush, and his cronies allowed all of the Country Club CEOs and CFOs to make extra money while they were ruining the economy with risky deals. That will CHANGE---and even if it is slight, it is a win against corporate greed.


Bye Bye--General Lee