Delta is getting ready to hire!!!

[BAe3100FO]

So in order to "update" your app at Delta, you have to rejoin AIRAPPS?

Seeing as how it was some $50 a year and no airlines hiring, I let it expire so I could use that $50 for beer money.

 

[lookin4better]

Something is definitly afoot!

 

[ACL65PILOT]

So in order to "update" your app at Delta, you have to rejoin AIRAPPS?

Seeing as how it was some $50 a year and no airlines hiring, I let it expire so I could use that $50 for beer money.

You can apply to one airline for no charge. I beleive that you have to start a new account to do that. DAL did that so that pilots could apply to DAL and not pay.

Also yes, Plato's son is here and a great guy, like his father.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Just wait, after SOC, Anderson will change his good will and about 700 to 1200 Pilots will hit the street. Sorry, with the O man in charge it will get worse before it gets better. I haven't updated my profile, but I worry that I'll be on the street. DC9....FO.... Save ...Save ...Save...I am not feeling good on this one.

Don't update it, stay where you are others will be happy you made that choice.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

DAL getting ready to hire, as is Air Wisconsin, and Emirates.

ATI had new-hire classes, as will Southern Air and USA Jet.

Comair will be recalling after Xmas, Eagle and (the old) Citation Shares are recalling now. Atlas already recalled some, with only a few left on the street.

cliff
NBO

 

[DrewBlows]

Just wait, after SOC, Anderson will change his good will and about 700 to 1200 Pilots will hit the street. Sorry, with the O man in charge it will get worse before it gets better. I haven't updated my profile, but I worry that I'll be on the street. DC9....FO.... Save ...Save ...Save...I am not feeling good on this one.

Why are you so negative? What was the point of your post? Did you really think that you were adding to the conversation? Somehow Obama is going to do something that causes you to be hired, then furloughed? What's it like walking around with such a miserable demeanor?

 

[ExAF]

No 9s or Airbi

check out the delta pilot app webpage now, its been adjusted again to further expand on potential hiring. Last week it said they werent hiring just taking updates and now its a totally different tune. Things to ponder....

http://www.deltajobs.net/pilot_qualifications.htm

The 9s and Airbi aren't listed on the site. I guess new hires can't go to the 9 or Airbi. Never heard of a "new hire" fence LOL.

 

[Superpilot92]

The 9s and Airbi aren't listed on the site. I guess new hires can't go to the 9 or Airbi. Never heard of a "new hire" fence LOL.

yeah i noticed that as well. They havent adjusted that on there yet but they did open the app window back up which is the big change. None the less lets hope its a sign for good things to come.

 

[Gack727]

Delta doesn't have Airbus and DC9's NWA does. Until SOC happens Delta can't hire into aircraft that aren't on their certificate. If NWA was hiring we would see the 9 and bus...this is my best guess.

 

[DrewBlows]

Delta doesn't have Airbus and DC9's NWA does. Until SOC happens Delta can't hire into aircraft that aren't on their certificate. If NWA was hiring we would see the 9 and bus...this is my best guess.

Delta controls hiring at NWA, they can hire into any airplane they want. I think it's an HR/IT issue.

 

[SpauldingSmails]

Delta controls hiring at NWA, they can hire into any airplane they want. I think it's an HR/IT issue.

Seamless integration, cost saving benefit blah blah... synergy blah.
Premier global blah blah blah.

It probably is an IT issue.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Delta doesn't have Airbus and DC9's NWA does. Until SOC happens Delta can't hire into aircraft that aren't on their certificate. If NWA was hiring we would see the 9 and bus...this is my best guess.

That is a good catch, and is omitted for legal reasons.

No one will be assigned a class or jet before SOC anyways.

 

[ExAF]

The 9s and Airbi aren't listed on the site. I guess new hires can't go to the 9 or Airbi. Never heard of a "new hire" fence LOL.

The post was a friggin joke for crying out loud. Hence the and the LOL.
This site continues to amaze me. :laugh:

 

[Truckdriver]

You can apply to one airline for no charge. I beleive that you have to start a new account to do that. DAL did that so that pilots could apply to DAL and not pay.

Also yes, Plato's son is here and a great guy, like his father.

You can actually apply to as many airlines as you want for free if you create a seperate account for each one. The $50/yr charge allows you to have the system automatically import your data to every airline so you don't have to fill out each app individually. So, if your cheap like me, you can fill out as many apps as you want and never pay airlineapps a dime.

Plato set it up this way so you would never have to pay for an application if you don't want to. If your lazy and want them to import the stuff to all the other airline applications out there, they will do it for $50. They actually make most of their money from the fees that the hiring airlines pay to them for gathering and screening the applicants.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

That is correct, and I was to lazy to type that.

Yep, the airlines pay a fee. Good retirement plan IMHO!

 

[Beaver79]

The best part when Bush ended his 2nd term was when his Sec of the Treasury Paulson helped his banking buddies get huge bonuses, even though those companies were failing. There was NO oversight under Bush, and his cronies allowed all of the Country Club CEOs and CFOs to make extra money while they were ruining the economy with risky deals. That will CHANGE---and even if it is slight, it is a win against corporate greed.


Bye Bye--General Lee

You best study the connections between big business, Bush, and even Obama. They are all in the b.s. bailouts. Start looking at the resumes of ALL of the people involved....one big inbred party. Start with Sec Paulson and keep going and going. Obama is not nearly as "clean" as many think. Our natl leadership is absent.

 

[EMBpilot]

...
Yep, the airlines pay a fee...

Yeah, I see Plato's and FLTops.com move towards the airlines paying for more and more things instead of the pilot-applicants.

Once you show that you provide quality value for them you can actually charge the airlines for career fairs etc. as opposed to milking pilots.

 

[Superpilot92]

The 9s and Airbi aren't listed on the site. I guess new hires can't go to the 9 or Airbi. Never heard of a "new hire" fence LOL.

they changed the site again to reflect better with the initial pilot applicant window. No more mention of aircraft type on the site. Somethings up if they're spending the time to open the app window and reconfigure the pages. My guess is they're getting things ready while they figure out all the legalities that come with hiring, flows, nwa pool, and previously turned down by DAL applicants.

 

[thor2j]

I'm not trying to be negative, just realistic. I think, as do more then 1/2 the people I know a Delta and NWA that there is a much more realistic chance of a massive furlough then there is to hire. When two huge companies like that merge there is just way too much redundency. Once all the details get sorted, and routes and maybe hubs get cut, there is simply no way to hire. I wish all of you the best, but just looking at the facts.

 

[EMBpilot]

... When two huge companies like that merge there is just way too much redundency..

That's the point.
When you are proactive and merge first you have the best options to pick from. DAL and NWA hardly overlap and only compliment each other's geography. At a minimum there is growth to connect the hubs better.

#2 marriage will get ugly anyway you slice it. Just look at UAL/CAL's route maps. Or AA/USA, etc. Also look at the numbers of furloughs already on the street.

 

[Superpilot92]

I'm not trying to be negative, just realistic. I think, as do more then 1/2 the people I know a Delta and NWA that there is a much more realistic chance of a massive furlough then there is to hire. When two huge companies like that merge there is just way too much redundency. Once all the details get sorted, and routes and maybe hubs get cut, there is simply no way to hire. I wish all of you the best, but just looking at the facts.

Facts?? Please feel free to include facts instead of unsubstantiated speculation, thanks.

 

[Truckdriver]

I'm not trying to be negative, just realistic. I think, as do more then 1/2 the people I know a Delta and NWA that there is a much more realistic chance of a massive furlough then there is to hire. When two huge companies like that merge there is just way too much redundency. Once all the details get sorted, and routes and maybe hubs get cut, there is simply no way to hire. I wish all of you the best, but just looking at the facts.

So if half the people you know here beleive that, then you must know two people and one of them thinks there will be furloughs.

The facts are that there was virtually no overlap in our international systems and most of the domestic overlap is being taken care of by cuts at DCI and NWA Airlink. I initially thought we would see some furloughs due to the merger, but the more I look at the facts the less I see furloughs happening at this time. I'm sure they wouldn't be paying people to get the application information updated online if they were not planning on hiring. My bet is they won't hire very many, but they will be hiring before next summer. If this isn't the case, why would they update the application site and say that they are now screening applications??

 

[Linedriver]

Here's a question for the Delta guys - why would Delta be offering non-flying-lines through next year if hiring was in the future?

I agree it sounds like something's cooking so why the NFL's?

How long does it take from interview to the line? Maybe 3 months? If they want these guys for next summer things need to start happening pretty quickly. If next summer isn't the window it sounds like this other stuff might be a little early, by a year.

Maybe this doesn't mean anything at all.

 

[Mikes Apartment]

Here's a question for the Delta guys - why would Delta be offering non-flying-lines through next spring if hiring was in the future?

I agree it sounds like something's cooking so why the NFL's?

Delta has pulled back it's schedule pretty far. This is temporary so no furloughs. Summer 2010 is going to be an increase over 2009 by a significant percentage. Delta is adding 9 MD-90s now and a couple of 777s next year. Bringing aircraft that are in the desert represent growth and my opinion is that Delta may be getting into a position to grow as the economy improves. Hiring may be required if Delta wants to bring back more airplanes from storage. Why NFL's? Why not? during this fall with the schedule reduced, why not see if some guys want some time off? With Delta's current plan, they cannot furlough. That could change next week of course.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

FWIW, two of the guys I know really really well were called today by HR and told to update their apps. Not sure what that means, but the calls were real.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Here's a question for the Delta guys - why would Delta be offering non-flying-lines through next year if hiring was in the future?

I agree it sounds like something's cooking so why the NFL's?

How long does it take from interview to the line? Maybe 3 months? If they want these guys for next summer things need to start happening pretty quickly. If next summer isn't the window it sounds like this other stuff might be a little early, by a year.

Maybe this doesn't mean anything at all.

BTW I know three guys that applied for NFL's and did not get them because we are now short.

 

[General Lee]

I'm not trying to be negative, just realistic. I think, as do more then 1/2 the people I know a Delta and NWA that there is a much more realistic chance of a massive furlough then there is to hire. When two huge companies like that merge there is just way too much redundency. Once all the details get sorted, and routes and maybe hubs get cut, there is simply no way to hire. I wish all of you the best, but just looking at the facts.

NWA's trips will start to mirror DL's trips by SOC (5 day trips which are normal for domestic trips at NWA will go to 4 day trips--resulting in more pilots needed--pretty much covering the loss of the 747-200s). New rest rules by the FAA and the end of this year will allow longer transcon turns, but actually restrict other flights that might have been 2 man trips (under 8 hours) but now have to go to three man trips (allnighters to Europe from NYC to Ireland, England, etc). RA said we would "expand internally", meaning we would bring back parked planes from the desert---we have lots of 757s parked currently at VCV. We are getting 9 extra MD90s and 2 777s as "growth aircraft" for 2010. If we do have large bids (to facilitate moving aircraft from base to base), that means a lot of training, and we have 2 large facilities to handle that (Natco in MSP and our ATL training center)---and that means a lot of idle pilots awaiting IOEs or TOEs afterward. I can see us getting "tight" on pilots by Summer 2010.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Superpilot92]

fwiw, two of the guys i know really really well were called today by hr and told to update their apps. Not sure what that means, but the calls were real.

i like!!!!!

 

[Linedriver]

FWIW, two of the guys I know really really well were called today by HR and told to update their apps. Not sure what that means, but the calls were real.

hmmmm.

 

[cq43vt17t]

ACL,

where those guys that previously interviewed? (aka door closed on them?)