Delta and Northwest revive merger talks

[JoeMerchant]

Sad, ain't it?

.....more like reality.....

 

[PCL_128]

.....more like reality.....

That doesn't make the reality any less sad.

 

[JoeMerchant]

That doesn't make the reality any less sad.

...then you ALPA cheerleaders better quit defending the very system that created this mess....

....this is better than watching Hillary and Obama club each other......

 

[LandGreen]

anymore rumblings about Steenland wanting OUT so bad he might be willing to break up NW into parts? is he thinking that NW might not be attractive as a whole package anymore? that would be one way around this merger mess! this is getting scary...

 

[PCL_128]

...then you ALPA cheerleaders better quit defending the very system that created this mess....

The "system" didn't create any mess, Joe. The people operating within the system are creating the mess, as usual.

 

[JoeMerchant]

The "system" didn't create any mess, Joe. The people operating within the system are creating the mess, as usual.

The independent MEC concept without transportability of seniority created this mess....just watch....it will get worse......

There is no adult supervision in this so-called "union"......Now it is just a big food fight with a magazine......

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Actually Joe, I think for once one of these fricken MEC's is using some of the power that they have.
Kind of nice for a change.

If it actually comes to this I will be floored. Negotiation 101. There are many paths to the same result. Notice how quiet the NWA MEC has been. Don't you think that there involved or at least being consulted on some level?

 

[727RedTails]

I think you mean Midwest Airlines, not Air Midwest. Air Midwest is a part of Mesa flying Beech 1900s. That might be fun for awhile, but if we do get those 1900s, the DC9 guys will have to fly it. I need an FMS and an autothrottle.....

Bye Bye--General Lee

Wow,
You really are sooo funny. What a f*cking princess you are. I can't fly anything without autothrottles and FMS. F*ucking hilarious.

 

[123]

anymore rumblings about Steenland wanting OUT so bad he might be willing to break up NW into parts? is he thinking that NW might not be attractive as a whole package anymore? that would be one way around this merger mess! this is getting scary...

Nah, if Steenland wants out so bad, he can just leave in June and still collect is $8.2 million.

 

[General Lee]

I think you mean Midwest Airlines, not Air Midwest. Air Midwest is a part of Mesa flying Beech 1900s. That might be fun for awhile, but if we do get those 1900s, the DC9 guys will have to fly it. I need an FMS and an autothrottle.....

Bye Bye--General Lee

Wow,
You really are sooo funny. What a f*cking princess you are. I can't fly anything without autothrottles and FMS. F*ucking hilarious.

You probably won't be flying many DC9s soon anyway.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[PCL_128]

The independent MEC concept without transportability of seniority created this mess....just watch....it will get worse......

The independent MEC concept was created for exactly the reason I specified: the people operating within the system demanded it. Pilots are control freaks. They refuse to cede any power to a larger organization. As always, the problem isn't the Association, the problem is the individual egos that refuse to operate in a way that is beneficial to the whole. You are indicative of this problem.

 

[ChoadSnazz]

You probably won't be flying many DC9s soon anyway.


Bye Bye--General Lee

Genital Leak,

You are a total assh*le. I look forward to you being my gear bitch.

 

[727RedTails]

You probably won't be flying many DC9s soon anyway.


Bye Bye--General Lee

What a response from a scab wannabee. I sure am glad my friends at Delta want nothing to do with you, that comment shows your true colors doesn't it Princess Leah.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

The power make up of ALPA is kind of like the Federal Government.
There is a reason for that.

 

[Tref]

Prater will sign off on a contract because it will allow both entities to be operated separately. There will BE no violation of ALPA merger policy because it will NOT be invoked.

Actually NWA pilots have a contract that has a Scope section as well. It says that any acquisition/merger requires a merged seniority list and that ALPA merger policy will be used if the other airline is ALPA as well. ALPA merger policy has a clearly defined 150 day timetable for arbitration if a negotiated list is not possible, so we may see arbitration eventually anyway.

 

[Tref]

Genital Leak,

You are a total assh*le. I look forward to you being my gear bitch.

Dude, I just put GL on my ignore list and I highly recommend it.

 

[Tref]

Our chair and MEC already have a great relationship with RA. I have been here a long time, and I have been through more than a couple CEOs. This CEO and board have been the single most impressive in my tenure. They have finally showed some vision instead of reacting to what's thrown at them.

Puff,
Don't let them fool you. Richard Anderson is not your friend. He and Doug Steenland were Lorenzo proteges before working together at NWA.

Richard might have more of a twinkle in his smile, especially since the braces came off, and I'd much rather have him as a CEO than Dougie, but he's not your buddy like so many at Delta seem to feel.

There is no doubt in my mind that what is playing out right now has been planned for years. There will be plenty of good cop/bad cop but the reality is that they are not in favor of one pilot group over the other. They want us all to work as hard as possible for as little as possible and will whipsaw us as much as we let them to get that.

It seems like many at DAL (or at least here on FI) are like the Star Belly Sneetches, but you think that Sylvester McMonkey McBean is your friend. Remember he packs up and leaves after he takes ALL of the Sneetches money, stars or not.

 

[General Lee]

Genital Leak,

You are a total assh*le. I look forward to you being my gear bitch.

Choady loves Chatchi,

VERY VERY unlikely. I will be a Captain sooner than you think........


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

You probably won't be flying many DC9s soon anyway.


Bye Bye--General Lee

What a response from a scab wannabee. I sure am glad my friends at Delta want nothing to do with you, that comment shows your true colors doesn't it Princess Leah.

Scab wannabee? Come on now. I never put a timeframe on when all of the -9s would be parked, but eventually they all will. And people at Delta want nothing to do with me? I don't care. I don't speak for all Delta people. If you think I do, then you are wrong. This is an anonymous opinion board. Get over yourself. Suddenly when things don't seem like they are going your way you get offended.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

"It seems like many at DAL (or at least here on FI) are like the Star Belly Sneetches, but you think that Sylvester McMonkey McBean is your friend. Remember he packs up and leaves after he takes ALL of the Sneetches money, stars or not. "----Tref


What language is this Tref guy speaking? Is he on dope?


Bye Bye--General Lee