Delta 717 problems?

[waveflyer]

Ok, how about this... Worry about your own issues you pay for training sellout troll??

Dude-
You only have 450 posts

About 350 stalking me-

I dont swing that way sellout-

I bet if you hired some of skywests best check airman even a delta pilot could figure the RJ out

 

[General Lee]

Dude-
You only have 450 posts

About 350 stalking me-

I dont swing that way sellout-

I bet if you hired some of skywests best check airman even a delta pilot could figure the RJ out

Wave,

Scoot is a complete tool, no doubt. But, you did sell out if you bought your type. I can't believe that deal is still in place. Before you add that college costs money, you probably paid for that too. So, in your own eyes, you sold out twice! Shame on you Wavey!


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Wave,

Scoot is a complete tool, no doubt. But, you did sell out if you bought your type. I can't believe that deal is still in place. Before you add that college costs money, you probably paid for that too. So, in your own eyes, you sold out twice! Shame on you Wavey!


Bye Bye---General Lee

You bought your copy of MS Flt Sim and never see the light of day, unless your mom is taking you to therapy.
You are the biggest tool in the shed.

 

[Scoot 11]

Dude-
You only have 450 posts

About 350 stalking me-

I dont swing that way sellout-

I bet if you hired some of skywests best check airman even a delta pilot could figure the RJ out

Young lady. You have nearly 8000 posts. Most of them focused on DL threads.
You F'd up your interview. Get over it. You sold out by flying an outsourced RJ, and then Buying your job at southwest. I'm sure there'll be another 8000 posts of you hand jobbing genital leech claiming your superiority. Maybe if you weren't such a sellout troll who couldn't get hired anywhere you wouldn't have had to PFT.
AMF!

 

[General Lee]

Young lady. You have nearly 8000 posts. Most of them focused on DL threads.
You F'd up your interview. Get over it. You sold out by flying an outsourced RJ, and then Buying your job at southwest. I'm sure there'll be another 8000 posts of you hand jobbing genital leech claiming your superiority. Maybe if you weren't such a sellout troll who couldn't get hired anywhere you wouldn't have had to PFT.
AMF!

Look, next time you dream about flying INTL for a legacy , make sure you try to remember where you flight plan on the way out. Some day you'll figure the difference between CDG and AMS. Wait, nah, you'll never do it anyway, you are a tool box.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[waveflyer]

Young lady. You have nearly 8000 posts. Most of them focused on DL threads.
You F'd up your interview. Get over it. You sold out by flying an outsourced RJ, and then Buying your job at southwest. I'm sure there'll be another 8000 posts of you hand jobbing genital leech claiming your superiority. Maybe if you weren't such a sellout troll who couldn't get hired anywhere you wouldn't have had to PFT.
AMF!

Hey man- I told some air tran guys this way back- I lost all credibility as soon as I hit 1000 posts-
Most of those aren't delta- though I do enjoy trashing you for selling out- just keeping a promise I made that if you guys signed off on more larger RJs -
Think about it- new regs- regional pilots need to be atp's now= Shrinking RJs in terms of numbers until that balances with the labor market-
You gave delta exactly what she wanted- those now rare pilots will be able to fly more seats on higher flying more fuel efficient airplanes- you gave outsourced RJs economic viability just as they were losing their viability.
no carrier had outsourced RJ's as big as you have outside of BK- now you've made cry-900's industry standard when there was no reason you couldn't have flown it themselves.

As for "sellout"- check the definition.

I made an adult decision to purchase an education. I made an adult decision to weigh my options and accept an RJ job.

You guys are SELLOUTS because you voted to create a whipsaw market that OTHER pilots fly in.

That's a big difference and no matter what insults you sling back- check the views on this thread vs the posts-
Every lurker knows the difference between making a decision for oneself and making a decision that directly affects those coming up behind you

So good luck with that spin and vitriol- dalpa's legacy is still 'industry leader in allowing outsourcing'

Good for you- strongest network carrier in the world and THAT's the leadership you provide...

 

[dbrownie]

Look, next time you dream about flying INTL for a legacy , make sure you try to remember where you flight plan on the way out. Some day you'll figure the difference between CDG and AMS. Wait, nah, you'll never do it anyway, you are a tool box.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Maybe someday we will flight plan at a desk instead of the cockpit?
You have to admit that's 1 thing NWA did better?
Db

 

[HowardBorden]

Fingers crossed Howie!

No they're not your rooting for failure because your a scumbag that feels because your company screwed you, everyone should suffer the same fate.

 

[General Lee]

No they're not your rooting for failure because your a scumbag that feels because your company screwed you, everyone should suffer the same fate.

Huh? I don't feel that way. I understand what happened, and I also got nearly $300K in the creditor buyout payments (filling up 401Ks and then cash that was taxed). A whole bunch of Capts retired early, and I moved up in category swiftly. We're about back to where we were, have a DC fund at 15% in my name, and I fly exactly where I want, with great variety. I hope you can say the same in a few years!



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[HowardBorden]

Huh? I don't feel that way. I understand what happened, and I also got nearly $300K in the creditor buyout payments (filling up 401Ks and then cash that was taxed). A whole bunch of Capts retired early, and I moved up in category swiftly. We're about back to where we were, have a DC fund at 15% in my name, and I fly exactly where I want, with great variety. I hope you can say the same in a few years!

Your comprehension sucks. You made the fingers crossed remark about SWAPA holding the line on the iron clad scope language we spent so much valuable negotiating capital to secure. I'm quite sure your repeated failures on the scope front did not provide you with any of the things you mentioned. And, many Delta pilots gravely disagree with you "We're about back to where we were" assertion. And again I don't at all believe your "I hope you can say the same in a few years" statement because its total and utter BS when viewed through the lens of hating all things Southwest.

 

[General Lee]

Your comprehension sucks. You made the fingers crossed remark about SWAPA holding the line on the iron clad scope language we spent so much valuable negotiating capital to secure. I'm quite sure your repeated failures on the scope front did not provide you with any of the things you mentioned. And, many Delta pilots gravely disagree with you "We're about back to where we were" assertion. And again I don't at all believe your "I hope you can say the same in a few years" statement because its total and utter BS when viewed through the lens of hating all things Southwest.

I don't hate all things SWA, nope. I just am critical of Corndogs who defend paying for training even though their company doesn't have to do it, and watch with amazement when they become incensed when someone DOESN'T want what they have---to be a Corndog. Some may have yearned for the way your management and pilot group "luv'd" each other, but that just doesn't seem to be the case anymore. Throw in the poor merger decisions with the SLI and the resultant "zero AT 737 Capts remain that way when they cross over" deal, and there are some big negatives for this industry coming out of your corner. I guess zero code shares and tight scope is great, but I see that as a huge target your honchos will be looking at. Will you keep it that way? That really is up to you, but I think it will be quite expensive. I wonder why they haven't added bag fees (like they do at AT) yet? Maybe that can be your defense...



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[redflyer65]

Your only real argument is 'Pay for training'. And even that's weak. How much is that four year degree that you don't even use? Yea, that's close to the same price of a 5k type rating.

Regarding anything else,

SW doesn't have ONE RJ. Not ONE.
Ironclad Codeshare, as in NONE.
Best Narrowbody payrates, and in some cases better than many Widebody rates.
Some of the best work rules in the industry. ie, A four day that pays 26.5, vs DL 21. Huge difference.

So Jenny, you unfortunately have no argument. So you sound like a complete fool. As usual.

 

[Cobraair75drvr]

First things first. GL is a troll and y'all keep falling for it. That being said red, sw started out as a bottom feeder like virgin, jetblue, skybus, reno, valutjet, etc. The difference was outstanding mgmt. and lots of luck. 1. You don't have RJs because your mgmt. was smart enough to realize what money pits they were, and also they don't fit your model at all. The legacies had a very small use for them, but went on a bender and had a 10 year hangover. 2. Ironclad codeshare: That's easy as sw had rarely looked outside the conus. Your time will come. It's impossible to serve the world without them. It's a reality. Yes we codeshare with anyone and everyone it seems, but the flipside is we get feed from them also. It's not a one way street even though imho we seem to always be on the short end of the stick. I'm sure the KLM/AF guys might feel the same about us. 3. You currently (post 2004) have the best pay and workrules. That has not always been the case and you know that.(Historically, your Capt pay was about the equivalent of a legacy WB fo or maybe 757 fo) This being on top is in the big scheme of things a very recent event. I personally hope y'all can get some big raises for two reasons(better than our crappy 4,8,3,3 loose a little profit share and workrules to make it zero sum for the company). One being it will help us continue the restoration of our contract and two, my brother who flies for y'all can keep picking up the bar tab. 4. You do realize we had all those things. Commutable 4 days worth 24+ and at NWA we ever had commutable 5 days worth 28-30. Our trips now are greatly underpaid, but can be fixed with a simple tweak here or there. A true minimum day(IE: 4.25) would solve a lot of problems. Most of my 4 day trips would instantly go to the 24-26 hour range.

Your only real argument is 'Pay for training'. And even that's weak. How much is that four year degree that you don't even use? Yea, that's close to the same price of a 5k type rating.

Regarding anything else,

SW doesn't have ONE RJ. Not ONE.
Ironclad Codeshare, as in NONE.
Best Narrowbody payrates, and in some cases better than many Widebody rates.
Some of the best work rules in the industry. ie, A four day that pays 26.5, vs DL 21. Huge difference.

So Jenny, you unfortunately have no argument. So you sound like a complete fool. As usual.

 

[General Lee]

Cobraair757,

So, I'm a troll because I can successfully debate the issues? Riiiight. I guess people like you don't want direct answers, or to know any faults. A troll is someone only looking to make trouble. That is not my game, but I don't hide my opinions on certain subjects.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Freebrd]

A troll is someone only looking to make trouble. That is not my game,

Bye Bye---General Lee

Perfectly fits you putz because that's what you do on FI! Putz!