Delta 717 problems?

[SWA Bubba]

I'm not talking WATRS routes in the caribbean. I'm talking NAT track flying.
Especially a random track going eastbound with a 160 KT tailwind. You don't have time to sit and eat ice cream. Any fool can fly a WATRS route.

I can't tell if you're just trying to yank the General's tail on the whole "eating ice cream" thing or what; but I suspect that from the way he talks about it, he always finds time to eat ice cream.

When I used to fly NATs east and westbound, I got bored a lot of times. However, we didn't have any ice cream. Now I know what I was missing!

Bubba

 

[General Lee]

I can't tell if you're just trying to yank the General's tail on the whole "eating ice cream" thing or what; but I suspect that from the way he talks about it, he always finds time to eat ice cream.

When I used to fly NATs east and westbound, I got bored a lot of times. However, we didn't have any ice cream. Now I know what I was missing!

Bubba

I don't always eat a Sundae, but it's nice to know it's there if I want one. Sometimes I do. A choice of pretty good meals, with a soup, salad, and a choice of desserts, is nice. I never eat both, but there is also a second meal closer to arrival if wanted also. Throw in a 2-3 hour nap in between, and the flights are nice. Instead, Bubba would get bored (?), and would rather 5 leg it from HRL to OMA via HOU, TUL, and STL..... After a few years, that type of flying would truly get boring, and exhausting.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[redflyer65]

I don't always eat a Sundae, but it's nice to know it's there if I want one. Sometimes I do. A choice of pretty good meals, with a soup, salad, and a choice of desserts, is nice. I never eat both, but there is also a second meal closer to arrival if wanted also. Throw in a 2-3 hour nap in between, and the flights are nice. Instead, Bubba would get bored (?), and would rather 5 leg it from HRL to OMA via HOU, TUL, and STL..... After a few years, that type of flying would truly get boring, and exhausting.



Bye Bye---General Lee

And of course, you KNOW it's 2-4 legs a day, almost everyday. But you know it's just and Inconvenient Truth. Riiiiight, of course you do.

 

[waveflyer]

Red-

I'm starting to think you're general' alter ego because you keep feeding the troll

We've all seen this exchange ^^^^ a 100 times

Call him a wannabe sellout and be done with him.

He doesn't have man card enough to accept the easiest bet from Howard
Why engage says the hypocrit ?

 

[redflyer65]

Red-

I'm starting to think you're general' alter ego because you keep feeding the troll

We've all seen this exchange ^^^^ a 100 times

Call him a wannabe sellout and be done with him.

He doesn't have man card enough to accept the easiest bet from Howard
Why engage says the hypocrit ?

Wanna be sellout!

Yea, that feels better. DONE.

 

[General Lee]

And of course, you KNOW it's 2-4 legs a day, almost everyday. But you know it's just and Inconvenient Truth. Riiiiight, of course you do.

2 might be alright, but 4 would be exhausting. What types of trips would potential newhires (who have to pay for the type) get being at the bottom of the list? With your stagnation due to your merger and 717s leaving, guys at the bottom of the list might fly more 5 leg days. Emirite? Not so at expanding legacies with tons of retirements. That needs to be known.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Red-

I'm starting to think you're general' alter ego because you keep feeding the troll

We've all seen this exchange ^^^^ a 100 times

Call him a wannabe sellout and be done with him.

He doesn't have man card enough to accept the easiest bet from Howard
Why engage says the hypocrit ?

You call people a troll that bring up the inconvenient truth. You also can't debate the issues that everyone knows are ridiculous. Sad but true Wave.


And a sell out? For making sure 140 fewer RJs will be around after this 3 year contract ends? You forgot that.

Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[redflyer65]

And a sell out? For making sure 140 fewer RJs will be around after this 3 year contract ends? You forgot that.

Bye Bye---General Lee

Haha. Dude, you STILL have at least 600 RJ's. AT LEAST and I'm being generous with that number. Probably closer to 750, minimum.

So you see why you have NO credibility on this site anymore? NONE.

Four legs exhausting? You really are becoming an old, international, walking dead legacy guy aren't you.

I do four legs and done by 1pm. Having an early dinner and drinks, then I can go to bed early if I want. My choice. Meanwhile....

You're struggling to fly that redeye to Europe (did I mention we don't have any redeyes....or RJs for that matter), then try to adjust to the sleep patterns of MULTIPLE time zones. Just to get back to ATL for a fulllll day of rest while still having horrible rigs?

Yea, I'll take my four legs in the same time zone. Not even close to a decision.

 

[freightdogfred]

I can't tell if you're just trying to yank the General's tail on the whole "eating ice cream" thing or what; but I suspect that from the way he talks about it, he always finds time to eat ice cream.

When I used to fly NATs east and westbound, I got bored a lot of times. However, we didn't have any ice cream. Now I know what I was missing!

Bubba

Well I don't know what type of flying you flew, but I flew non-sked freight. Seems we were always going against the flow, hence we always got assigned a random track, which required not only MET reporting, but mid-point met reporting. Throw in 2 or 3 reroutes, and all the HF work, the co-star was busier than a one-legged man at an ass kicking contest. The was no time to eat ice cream. You've flown the north atlantic so you know there's more to do than stare a screen and it's certainly more challenging than flying 3 legs in texas, that was my point.

 

[General Lee]

Haha. Dude, you STILL have at least 600 RJ's. AT LEAST and I'm being generous with that number. Probably closer to 750, minimum.

So you see why you have NO credibility on this site anymore? NONE.

Four legs exhausting? You really are becoming an old, international, walking dead legacy guy aren't you.

I do four legs and done by 1pm. Having an early dinner and drinks, then I can go to bed early if I want. My choice. Meanwhile....

You're struggling to fly that redeye to Europe (did I mention we don't have any redeyes....or RJs for that matter), then try to adjust to the sleep patterns of MULTIPLE time zones. Just to get back to ATL for a fulllll day of rest while still having horrible rigs?

Yea, I'll take my four legs in the same time zone. Not even close to a decision.

Thanks Walter Cronkite, Mr. credibility yourself..... You telling me I don't have credibility is hilarious. I bring facts to a debate, and you pout. You never do admit that the RJ problem is BEING ADDRESSED, while your pay for type deal IS NOT, and your treatment of the trannies was deplorable. You conveniently leave that out....

And, your 4 legs per day is probably 5 legs per day for guys junior to you, and potential new hires should know that. Does AT have allnighters? Do you guys own AT? And allnighters across the pond involve REST BREAKS. You can take a nap, and then you get at least 24 hours to layover. You left that out, because you are so tired from your last 15 leg 3 day trip. Sleep patterns for a 3 day Europe trip? You aren't gone more than 48 hours. It's really not that bad, and you wouldn't know anyway. Plus, if you don't like it at a legacy, bid domestic only! It's called a choice. Your credibility is seriously lacking.... And we all can see it.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[madjack]

The Tranny's are doing just fine, not many are bailing for DAL...

 

[General Lee]

The Tranny's are doing just fine, not many are bailing for DAL...

Not yet. Get the 737 type for FREE, then look at the stagnation. 15,000 openings coming up at the big 3. Many will consider that.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[ATLplt]

The Tranny's are doing just fine, not many are bailing for DAL...

Not many are bailing for DAL yet. Some are waiting to get the free 737 type first, THEN bail.

 

[SWA Bubba]

Not many are bailing for DAL yet. Some are waiting to get the free 737 type first, THEN bail.

Really?

Then maybe that type rating IS worth something after all, despite what the General says.

Bubba

 

[madjack]

I doubt many will leave