Dangerous Capt.

[GoingHot]

When I read threads like this one, I am so glad to have union protection.

That goes both ways. Unions have been protecting bad teachers for 40 years. A union dues paying pilot, (good or bad) will probably seek the same deal.

 

[mcjohn]

It really sucks that the name of your company had to come into light here. Even if the folks that did it think lowly of your past posts calling them dramatic etc. Who cares. Don't go messing with people's jobs. Have some class people.

So sure, we can have the attitude that many seem to have that you shouldn't come on these public boards and discuss interviews, work issues, 'cause it always comes back to bite you they say. Let me remind folks that half of us joining up on these boards are looking for support b/c many of us are alone in our flying endeavors. We all suffer through the stress of personality conflicts in the cockpit, interview and rejection, management conflict, chosen profession's affect on spouse and family, etc..

The point? Pilots should be helping pilots. FI has proven for quite a while now to be a somewhat hostile place when it comes to pilots seeking out support when they don't know where to go next. In today's industry, that includes A LOT of us at times. I have quite an appreciation for FI b/c it was my original source for support back when I was working on my PPL and all the way through CFI. Still a great place for stuff like that. FI has gotten so big with the huge number of airline pilots here that no one can say anything about their company or seek support EVEN when they're going out of their way to be anonymous. Some folks thrive on getting everything out in the open and they go searching old posts to try and uncover them.

Anyway, there are many of us here at FI who know where to go when we really need to talk about something serious with no repercussions. Everything from how to deal with a miserable situation at work to how to deal with a miserable divorce are sometimes the top topics at a site whose motto is "Pilots helping Pilots." I love FI too folks, just be careful what you post here. Even the moderator will tell you that.

Oh and mr. moderator, this is not a plug. No name was mentioned. Just an explanation of why many of us have to go elsewhere at times to discuss certain things.

 

[deadstick]

Anyway, there are many of us here at FI who know where to go when we really need to talk about something serious with no repercussions. Everything from how to deal with a miserable situation at work to how to deal with a miserable divorce are sometimes the top topics at a site whose motto is "Pilots helping Pilots." I love FI too folks, just be careful what you post here. Even the moderator will tell you that.

Oh and mr. moderator, this is not a plug. No name was mentioned. Just an explanation of why many of us have to go elsewhere at times to discuss certain things.

justhelicopters.com had a problem with a decline in the quality of posts. It now has two forums. One is for the "wah-wah-wah your company sux, mine is better than yours" or "check out ytube" people and the other is geared towards professional development. The second is actively moderated to keep the bar high and has become a good place for student to senior pilots to discuss various aviaton subjects.

Just a though.

 

[Yodafly]

Sorry to hear this Shy...

I know who you are talking about. I think that most of us have heard stories. My suggestion is to talk to our safety department anonymously. Make sure other FO's will back you up. If it is a safety concern you have to do what's right to protect all that ride on his plane.

Good luck

 

[thunderworm]

a company that i used to work at had a guy like that and he had six letters in his file for the same kind of actions and still the company wouldn't do anything. people would refuse to fly with him and they would be treated like the bad guy and force them to fly anyways. finally after the cp and do went to talk with this person and he told them what to do with theirselves he was fired. he still won a lawsuit against the company though. i just goes to show that you can be a toatl ass or the best pilot and still get paid the same.

 

[retired guy]

They had a guy like you describe at Delta years ago...Miami based, I think. Anyway, about five copilots caught him in the parking lot and beat the $hit out of him.

 

[PCL_128]

That goes both ways. Unions have been protecting bad teachers for 40 years. A union dues paying pilot, (good or bad) will probably seek the same deal.

All the teachers' union can do is provide a defense. If the facts back up the school board's decision to get rid of a bad teacher, then they can get rid of that teacher. The same goes for any other union. The union provides the best defense they can for everyone, but if management has the evidence (which is what everyone here is telling the guy to collect), then getting rid of the bad employee is still very possible. Saying that teachers' unions protect bad teachers has always been a convenient cop-out. The truth is that school boards just don't want to go to the trouble of collecting evidence to support their case. They'd rather let bad teachers continue to teach. Blame the school boards, not the unions.

 

[ferlo]

Just tell him to go F*ck himself. Bully's never have a plan for that one. Loser.

 

[Godfather]

I'm sending Paulie and Sil down to take care of bidness for ya. Just let me know when he's headed for the parking lot when he gets off work...they'll be waiting

Cadillac Brown Jersey Tags...can't miss it....you'll get phone call from pay phone booth when the job is done.

 

[Corona]

That's what happened to me. I take absolutely NOTHING now. I got in a huge blow up recently with a guy - I won't go into specifics, but it involved compliance with procedure. It ain't my first. Problem is - anytime I get into an argument I overreact now due to what happened before.

Interesting. The pilots I respect most in this business also have this disposition. That's what happens when one jackass too many puts your life or career in jeopardy without your permission! :angryfire

It's pretty funny when non-pilots or non-professional pilots hear us going on about it; they think we're a bunch of wackos.

That's OK. I'd rather hear the big noise that comes from yelling at an idiot than the big noise that comes from an airplane smacking the ground.

C

 

[Corona]

They had a guy like you describe at Delta years ago...Miami based, I think. Anyway, about five copilots caught him in the parking lot and beat the $hit out of him.

That would be fun to see, but it wouldn't be good for the FOs if they got caught.

Cameras can be almost invisible these days. I'd much rather see pilots take secret videos of these kinds of pricks, then send copies to management, union, YouTube, Associated Press etc etc etc. Especially the media.

C

 

[whymeworry?]

Take yourself off th trip. When the CP asks why, tell him.

 

[Deli Guy]

I would spoon him, lift up his shirt, and then ejaculate on him.

 

[jws717]

They had a guy like you describe at Delta years ago...Miami based, I think. Anyway, about five copilots caught him in the parking lot and beat the $hit out of him.

That was when real men flew airplanes. 20 years ago we used our fist, now we use a law firm. The fist is alot faster and less painfull.

 

[NuGuy]

It's when you think you're finally over the event, have a moment alone to yourself, and the thought hits. . .

"Why didn't I say anything?"


"Why?"

Heyas Jedi,

Unfortunately, this revelation usually only comes to people after the fact.

After seeing my fair share of aquantences buried and young widows with small children, I've learned to speak right up.

Nu