Dangerous Capt.

[Hagar17]

Have you considered maybe martial arts and lifting weights. Also, intimidating stares and body language can be intimidating. A lot of times when I fly with a known difficult Capt, during the first lef of the trip I will finish a checklist with a tough stare so he knows I mean business and not going to take anything. Tone of voice can also let him know who is the tougher dude.

InstructorDude, you can't be for real, dude. You're too funny....

 

[acarpe3448]

Quit being a whiny bitch boy and either stand up for yourself or quit the profession.

80for80

You give the typical childish response that we find on flightinfo.com you can't stand the fact that this guy has a problem so you attack him! Low class all the way!

As far as the question goes,you have some good suggestions here. If you do not have the Prof Standards board then by all means go to the CP! You might also ask the other FOs to do the same thing! If one pilot comes in and complains your Chief Pilot may thionk it was just a personality conflict. If multiple pilots come in and complain then he will more likely act. Also, you and your coworkers need to report this guy everytime he does something dangerous. Get that history of complaints started. I had this exact same situation happen to me! Keep this in mind! You are in NO WAY expected to be physically or verbaly abused! Just walk out and tell your CP that you want to fly but will not fly with this person again! Good luck with getting this guy out the door.

 

[CA1900]

And as other have said, document, document, document. Dates, flight numbers, city pairs, name of FA, everything.

 

[ReverseSensing]

InstructorDude, you can't be for real, dude. You're too funny....

Definitely not for real, but that was pretty funny. Deserved to get hit because his tie was crooked...holy crap, that was hilarious.

 

[freightdogfred]

Shy guy, since you have no pro standards, go directly to old man Colgan and tell him about this guy and show him the marks he left from hitting you. That should be enough proof for old man Colgan to take action.

Looks like the Rhoid has outted the company where you work, hell it was probably one of his buddies from the bath house. Come on Guat, tell your partner to lighten up on the poor kid!

 

[freightdogfred]

Nice work, Ace Ventura. The point wasn't to get people with too much time on their hands to figure out where I work, where I'm based, who I am, who he is, or any other information. A lot of people know who I am on here, they know where I work, and about other very personal information on me (as El Cid so gallantly proved). That's not the point. I wanted people to focus on the issue at hand and keep this thread off the radar of management (who keep up-to-date on company posts by searching for their company name using the search feature). By keeping the company name off the message board, I could have the (mostly) intelligent discussion I've had with the (mostly) good people of FI. Next time, keep all that useful information to yourself, or finish the job (I know you can do it) and give everyone the WHOLE picture:

--ShyFlyGuy's Info--
Name: (I've used it in a previous post)
Address: (Google me, it's in there somewhere)
Phone: (Keep Googling)
Company: (I know you know this one, but is there more?)
Age: (You might have to look a little harder for this, but don't give up now.)
Personal Info: (Talk to El Cid, he'll give you all the dirt.)

Ya gotta know who your're dealing with here- 80for80, the Rhoid, the Guat, Lucy-Furr and a whole host of other banned user names I forgot. Just remember if some arrogant pr1ck UPS dude comes begging for a jumpseat, it could be yer old buddy 80for80.

 

[30West]

You work for Colgan.

PNF doesn't call for the abort at Colgan.

 

[PURPLEHAZE21]

You ever hear of the CVR circuit breaker ? Get him/her fired up...have them hit you again...because you obviously can't defend yourself....state whats occurring...then pull the breaker and save the data. Call someone other than your "Mom" who has authority and get them all in the "LOOP"...

 

[Oakum_Boy]

You on MySpace?

 

[FL250]

Do us all a favor and make sure this guy never makes it any further up the food chain. He should be selling aluminum siding out of the back of his pick-up truck. M80drvr is right on, except he would already be in the hosiptal if he were my captain. Of course he would have never pulled that sh*t on me anyway. I would have put the fear of GOD in him! Good luck and NEVER EVER put up with a Captain who is unprofessional and unsafe!

 

[Mach8Forest]

Cid,

What is your deal? Having a hard time believing that someone can be this big of a prick? You have no idea, and I don't expect you to because you haven't flown with this guy. I have turned to this board for advice in this case because I feel that I have no moral support at my current company for this particular situation. I have it, and I'll move on. I'm amazed, you've been here since '04 and only posted 22 times... and my concerns about a dangerous pilot elicits a post from you?

Oh, thanks for the low-blow on Amy. You're a real piece of work.

Shy

post this BS on some other area please like Commuters, regionals, or Day care, etc etc.
Spineless
Mach8

 

[Ty Webb]

OK, Sorry, I'll behave from now on. I won't hit you again. You have the aircraft back.

Heh-heh.


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[Rally]

That's what happened to me. I take absolutely NOTHING now. I got in a huge blow up recently with a guy - I won't go into specifics, but it involved compliance with procedure. It ain't my first. Problem is - anytime I get into an argument I overreact now due to what happened before.

Trust me - take care of this guy sooner rather than later. Don't wait until you get to walk around a piece of scorched ground like I did (BTW he almost hit a house with 7 people in it - the house did burn but they all got out).

Is this the guy that used to hit his FOs and was also a druggy something like cocaine bust in the past?

 

[JediNein]

I just want to know when are you going to have this conversation with the Chief, after the accident? Ask the Chief to meet with him, in private, and bring the problem to his attention. Document and details help. A pattern is a lot easier to solve than a single incident. If you get fired, you’ll count your blessings after the former workplace makes the evening news. If they solve the problem, you’ll breathe a sigh of relief for not having to deal with the bully anymore. This ain’t second grade and we’re playing for keeps.

Oh don’t worry, sometimes you get years and months to act. Sometimes you get hours.

An 'interview' with an irate NTSB investigator really is not a lot of fun. I had a root canal after one, and the root canal was at least a thousand times more fun, especially when Doc Sawtooth found the raw nerve. BTW, an accident investigation is never closed, even after a probable cause is issued. You could get the warm fuzzy feeling of thumbscrews and the rack at any time in the next 2-3 years after the accident.

Of course, with the NTSB, kind of like a remora on a shark, is the FAA Inspector(s). And these inspectors have to prove to their bosses that they did something. A violation or a letter of warning is a little something, but if they get your certificates suspended or revoked, then they can claim they 'solved' the problem.

This assumes that you don’t have to talk to the families of the deceased. Or make the first phone call that shatters someone’s happy day, or worse, a family friend’s previously happy day.

When the investigation is done, then you get to meet the real sharks, the lawyers for the greedy, er... grieving widow(er)s. One recent lawsuit had compiled over 4 hours of videos showing how great and perfect was every single passenger on board, including the sexual predator in 5A, the abusive wife in 8C, and the twice-convicted but escaped bank robber in 9B.

All of the above have the same question: Why didn't you say anything?

The B52 that crashed at Fairchild AFB found that no one would say anything because the pilot pulled his tricks in front of all the brass, and the brass didn't do anything. The brass knew. Does the brass know of 'your' problem pilot?

Friends will let you cry on their shoulders, commiserate, reminisce about the mutual friends lost, and even the job if the company folds after the accident. But they won't help you with the hardest question. This is the one you ask yourself, even years after the accident.

It's when you think you're finally over the event, have a moment alone to yourself, and the thought hits. . .


"Why didn't I say anything?"


"Why?"

 

[deadstick]

The B52 that crashed at Fairchild AFB found that no one would say anything because the pilot pulled his tricks in front of all the brass, and the brass didn't do anything. The brass knew.

That's an infamous piece of B-roll. It gives me a sick feeling watching that bird slide right down the near-90 deg bank. I seem to recall when the Buff went in, it missed the base munitions bunker by 100 meters or so.