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Bid is out

ATL 777 42/34 CA/FO
CVG 7er 114/107

surplus
CVG 767 111/107


This is much better than it could have been. Second AE in Q1 of 09. That means a lot of things.


Discuss......
 
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ACL65PILOT said:
Bid is out

ATL 777 42/34 CA/FO
CVG 7er 114/107

surplus
CVG 767 111/107


This is much better than it could have been. Second AE in Q1 of 09. That means a lot of things.


Discuss......
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Looks like they want the domestic CVG 757/767 guys to bid the ER there. I bet some JFK ER guys may bid into it also. Overall, not too bad.

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
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A lot better than the alternative, plus it gives them some time to figure out a few other things that are in the works
 
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I guess we will see what they have in store for DCI next......


They are going to go after those contracts with vengeance.
 
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ACL65PILOT said:
Bid is out

ATL 777 42/34 CA/FO
CVG 7er 114/107

surplus
CVG 767 111/107


This is much better than it could have been. Second AE in Q1 of 09. That means a lot of things.


Discuss......
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More super-duper-premium wide bodied international captains and first officers. This bid only covers two of the 6 B777LR super-duper-premium widebodied aircraft coming early next year. There should be a follow on bid for the other 4 due in 2009.:D
 
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Is that the whole contingent of CVG 76/75 pilots? Do the CVG guys and gals who are now surplus get any kind of first dibs on the new ER flying or is it completely seniority based?
 
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ACL65PILOT said:
I guess we will see what they have in store for DCI next......


They are going to go after those contracts with vengeance.
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Vengeance: .Punishment inflicted in return for an injury or an offense; retribution; - often, in a bad sense, passionate or unrestrained revenge.




OK, Delta guys hate Comair and probably Mesa.

But what has SkyWest/ASA done to warrant "vengeance"?

CHQ?

All they did was respond to a Delta RFP years ago and won or bought it.

Vengeance? What did they do, kill your dog?

It's business ... nothing personal.
 
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Exactly, but DAL not the pilots want to renegotiate these contracts so that they are not exposed in the same way they are now. It truly is the perfect time to do so. A horrible economy make it harder to a third part carrier to just turn their nose up at DAL and say bye bye.

FDJ2 is correct. The next AE should cover the second had of the year a the other new 777LR's
 
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The current contract structure (fee for departure) is killing the profitability of the RJs.
 
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JECKEL,

Nothing against the guys! My dog is fine, thanks.
Delta guys hate the wages you fly such a big procentage of Delta's flying for. Other majors too.

No one wants to see good jobs disappear in any industry.
You should be exited about Delta cutting RJ's too!!!
 
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ACL65PILOT said:
Bid is out

ATL 777 42/34 CA/FO
CVG 7er 114/107

surplus
CVG 767 111/107


This is much better than it could have been. Second AE in Q1 of 09. That means a lot of things.


Discuss......
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Please excuse my ignorance but what does this mean? You you saying that there were 42 capt and 34 fo positions filled in this AE for the ATL777?

How does the bid process work for the surplus, does the company displace these pilots per whatever their current position bid is and create a waterfall effect down the seniority list?

I need to figure out how we go about bidding after bid period 5 hits.

Thanks,
 
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Please excuse my ignorance but what does this mean? You you saying that there were 42 capt and 34 fo positions filled in this AE for the ATL777?

How does the bid process work for the surplus, does the company displace these pilots per whatever their current position bid is and create a waterfall effect down the seniority list?

I need to figure out how we go about bidding after bid period 5 hits.

Thanks,
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An advanced entitlement allows people to bid to whatever is available. This bid has a certain amount of 777 Captain and FO slots, and they seem to be changing the CVG domestic category to the INTL "ER" category. The same thing is stated below it, with a displacement of the same number of CVG 757/767 Captains and FOs. (actually it looks like they are adding a few capt slots)


It is all based on seniority. When a person is displaced, he/she is allowed to bid whatever they want that they can HOLD, and bump that person if they want. I think DL is hoping all of the CVG guys just bid the ER and there isn't a lot of extra training, but some senior guy in JFK could bump the CVG guys out if they want to. That could create the waterfall affect, but the company can also cancel the bid if it is more expensive than they wanted. That hardly ever happens, but it could. There will be a bigger bid in January I have been told. This one only filled 2 of the 6 777s we have coming next year.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
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Just curious, why doesn't DL put out an AE every month? which is what we do here at AA.
 
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General Lee said:
they seem to be changing the CVG domestic category to the INTL "ER" category.
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Who will do the domestic 757/767 flying? Can ER pilots fly domestic, or are they only allowed to fly internationally?

I seem to remember hearing that the categories were split up, which requires more pilots (reserves.) Could this be the beginning of DAL putting all 757/767 pilots into the same category (meaning less reserves required?)

Or are a proportional number of airframes being shifted to international flying?
 
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Just curious, why doesn't DL put out an AE every month? which is what we do here at AA.
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It would not be as exciting. We would not get our own Y I P P E E ! thread on Flight Info.
 
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Er guys can fly domestic but not the other way around.

It means that the ATL crews may get SAL
 

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