CVG-A real ghost town.

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I knew that DL had reduced their schedules out of CVG, but I didn't realize how much, until I flew in there this past thursday. We landed on 36L, and there were weeds growing out on the taxiway all the way back to the departure end of 36C. Really sad.
 

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You think that's sad, check out STL. TWA operated hundreds of flights/day in 2001 and now AA is down to like 34.

Just shows to go you, a hub without strong O & D traffic is no hub.
 

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I knew that DL had reduced their schedules out of CVG, but I didn't realize how much, until I flew in there this past thursday. We landed on 36L, and there were weeds growing out on the taxiway all the way back to the departure end of 36C. Really sad.
Good Morning. I talked to the gate agents there a few weeks ago. They told me years ago DL had approx 240 flights per day out of CVG. This past summer sched was 42 flights a day and this fall is only 22 flights per day out of CVG. Sad indeed.
 

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But...wait...I clearly remember Mr. Anderson saying after the merger announcement that all the hubs would be preserved? :rolleyes:

I hope MEM isn't next on the cutting block. Sad indeed.
 

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But...wait...I clearly remember Mr. Anderson saying after the merger announcement that all the hubs would be preserved? :rolleyes:

I hope MEM isn't next on the cutting block. Sad indeed.
Yep.. RA said a lot of things-all false. He also said that all the "synergies" of the merger would lead to awesome profits (how is that working out for you?) The only people who buy that kind of B.S. are Gen Lee and ACL.

-Ba-Ba-Ba-Billions of lies-(just like our prez.)
 
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God bless boy. CVG is a medium market that does not fully support a full service carrier except to a few cities. DAL will serve those.

We have a very defined business plan, and it states what we will and will not do. One of them is flying to cities that do not work for our business model. I would not want to be at DCI, that hammer is falling and fast.
 

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DCI was just a simple lookup.

It's Rafsu Decimomannu Airport in Sardinia, Italy. Didn't realize the hammer was falling there. Such a nice airport too...
 

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DCI was just a simple lookup.

It's Rafsu Decimomannu Airport in Sardinia, Italy. Didn't realize the hammer was falling there. Such a nice airport too...
Delta used to have 3 flights a day between DCI and CVG, plus the daily flights from ATL and JFK to boot. Sad how times have changed for DCI.
 

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Talked to a mid level CVG airport management type the other day. He said the sweetheart deal Delta has with the airport which basically prevents any new airline from serving CVG (deal gives Delta the same discounts airports usually use to entice new service) is going to expire in a little less than 2 years. Once that happens, hello Jetblue, SWA or Airtran. According to him anyway.
 

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Ah the memories.....

Talked to a mid level CVG airport management type the other day. He said the sweetheart deal Delta has with the airport which basically prevents any new airline from serving CVG (deal gives Delta the same discounts airports usually use to entice new service) is going to expire in a little less than 2 years. Once that happens, hello Jetblue, SWA or Airtran. According to him anyway.
Reminds me of when DFW was a Delta hub and during the BK they asked the airport for a deal from it's gate rental fees and DFW said no dice. Then when DAL said ok, we'll shut it down, DFW was offering SWA free rent for 5 years and like $25 million worth of advertising if they would move their non-hub, hub from LUV to DFW.
I know everyone is like, hooray, lets give away free space from the majors to an LCC so that we can "stimulate" more traffic by giving away seats for free. I still fail to see why an airport needs to have more traffic? I mean, maybe CVG is a 75 flight a day (all airlines combined) airport, and hub status is not assured. If the economy were to pick up and DAL wanted to expand by 25%, I'm sure they would have to look at where they had the space, but in this market, they are probably being responsible.
LUV
 

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Just read it again....

Talked to a mid level CVG airport management type the other day. He said the sweetheart deal Delta has with the airport which basically prevents any new airline from serving CVG (deal gives Delta the same discounts airports usually use to entice new service) is going to expire in a little less than 2 years. Once that happens, hello Jetblue, SWA or Airtran. According to him anyway.
Oh, so it's a "sweetheart" deal that one airline doesn't want to pay the bills for the others. The rent should be the same, this is just a case of where DAL stood up for itself and said we are paying the bills while you give our competition a free ride.
 

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All airport operators care about is pax volume. More pax, more concessions revenue, more parking revenue, more tax revenue.

A hangar or two would boost employment as well.
 

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-Ba-Ba-Ba-Billions of lies-(just like our prez.)
Nice..take your political agenda somewhere else..not needed here.
 

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God bless boy. CVG is a medium market that does not fully support a full service carrier except to a few cities. DAL will serve those.

We have a very defined business plan, and it states what we will and will not do. One of them is flying to cities that do not work for our business model. I would not want to be at DCI, that hammer is falling and fast.
Does this "very defined business plan" include misleading (to put it mildly) congress about "keeping all of the hubs of the two airlines?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTxrm7hdIc8

-Check out 4:45 if you think I am full of it!

(We all know DAL had planned big things for CVG-and not just for regionals.)
 
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Scope out RJ's

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Does this "very defined business plan" include misleading (to put it mildly) congress about "keeping all of the hubs of the two airlines?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTxrm7hdIc8

-Check out 4:45 if you think I am full of it!

(We all know DAL had planned big things for CVG-and not just for regionals.)
We all know you are full of it.
Don't worry though, I'm sure there is enough business men looking for $5 fellacio there, so you'll have plenty of work!
 
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