CS 2 hour rule

[igneousy2]

I was wondering how strict CS was with the 2 hour rule...

If I get the job at CS I was planning to move in with the inlaws initially. I did a check on their address and...

It is 2 hours and 8 minutes according to mapquest
2 hours and 7 minutes according to google
2 hours and 1 minute according to yahoo.

Additionally it is 1 hour and 59 minutes from the airport back to their house according to Yahoo.

I was based in BOS as an FO with a regional a few years ago and I did this drive numerous times and it never took me longer than 1 hour and 30 minutes even with traffic. I have a feeling the traffic assumptions these sites use are based on mid-day...not on early morning driving that it would be if you were trying to make the first flight out of your base.

on a seperate subject - I am currently not residing within 2 hours of a CS domicile, is this going to hold me up getting hired or can I start and then move once I complete training.

Thanks

 

[igneousy2]

New info...

AAA.com puts the time at 1 hour and 59 minutes TO BOS. Does this mean I'm all good or are they going to run their own check on their own software/site.

Thanks again

 

[G100driver]

Get the job first. Do not sweat the little stuff.

If anyone asks, turn in the AAA info and talk to CP if anyone gives you crap.

 

[learflyer]

I thought it was 90 mins anyway? 2 hrs now?

 

[Sparse]

New info...

AAA.com puts the time at 1 hour and 59 minutes TO BOS. Does this mean I'm all good or are they going to run their own check on their own software/site.

Thanks again

From what I know, any map program that produces a drive of 120 minutes or less will be accepted. I would say AAA would be ok.

 

[paulsalem]

Igneousy2,

From my experience most of those mapping sites' times are longer than what it really takes. Just to be sure I'd actually go drive it. I dont know what CS policy is, but I'd assume they're not going to care what aaa.com website says, all they care about is do you get there within 2 hours.

Also, what if traffic is bad, if it takes you 1:55 normally, then you'll probably end up late.

 

[Sparse]

Igneousy2,

From my experience most of those mapping sites' times are longer than what it really takes. Just to be sure I'd actually go drive it. I dont know what CS policy is, but I'd assume they're not going to care what aaa.com website says, all they care about is do you get there within 2 hours.

Also, what if traffic is bad, if it takes you 1:55 normally, then you'll probably end up late.

I don't know how much you know about CS, but they only accept the times from a mapping program. I wouldn't waste my time driving it. I guess if the hiring guys had personal experiance with a certain drive they may accept it but most of the time, the mapping program is used.

 

[The Great One]

hope you're over 40 years old with over 4000 hours
unless you're a woman
otherwise, no job for you !!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[paulsalem]

I don't know how much you know about CS, but they only accept the times from a mapping program. I wouldn't waste my time driving it. I guess if the hiring guys had personal experiance with a certain drive they may accept it but most of the time, the mapping program is used.

I have know pretty much nothing about CS. I didn't know they operated that way.

I guess that works out well for Igneousy2 then.

Thanks for correcting me.

-Paul

 

[SKYLAWYER]

hope you're over 40 years old with over 4000 hours
unless you're a woman
otherwise, no job for you !!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry I don't even come close to fitting that profile and I'll be in Indoc on the 28th. Just apply and hope for the best,it works out sometimes.

 

[dime line]

If I get the job at CS I was planning to move in with the inlaws initially. I did a check on their address and...

Wow you mean CS is so great that they pay you just enough to move in with your inlaws. Nice

 

[Humphreybogart]

Wow you mean CS is so great that they pay you just enough to move in with your inlaws. Nice

They offer alot more than the num nuts at NJ, you idiot, dimeASS

 

[dime line]

oh yea I can see with one of your own new guys, so tickled pink to be working at CS hes going to move in with the wifes parents.

 

[Way2Broke]

hope you're over 40 years old with over 4000 hours
unless you're a woman
otherwise, no job for you !!!!!!!!!!!!

So you have something against female pilots that have the same ratings, hours, and expereince as you? I guess they belong in the kitchen making men dinner? Men made it hard enough for women to have the "right" to become pilots in the first place, and even today they have to put up with comments like this. If they catch a break then so be it. The next time a company hires a woman and the first flight out she crashes the plane and the NTSb finds "she was pretty" as a contributing factor let me know. Until then, keep your sexist comments to yourself.

 

[learflyer]

So you have something against female pilots that have the same ratings, hours, and expereince as you? I guess they belong in the kitchen making men dinner? Men made it hard enough for women to have the "right" to become pilots in the first place, and even today they have to put up with comments like this. If they catch a break then so be it. The next time a company hires a woman and the first flight out she crashes the plane and the NTSb finds "she was pretty" as a contributing factor let me know. Until then, keep your sexist comments to yourself.

Married to a female pilot are we?

 

[C680]

Dont take the job then

oh yea I can see with one of your own new guys, so tickled pink to be working at CS hes going to move in with the wifes parents.

Rules are rules. Do not take the job.

 

[SteelerMan]

They are pretty strict on the two hour rule, but the aaa time will be accepted. The two hours has nothing to do with "getting to airport quick", there is no requirement for how soon you must get to the airport when your called for an assignment at home, four hours is what most people use as a min. Sometimes they will give you six months to locate within the two hours, depending on your circumstances. It'll come up in your interview, just tell them what your planning, no big deal. cheers.

 

[igneousy2]

I was based in BOS for 5 years with American Eagle and did the exact drive for two of those years and the only time it ever came close to two hours was in the winter. There is no "mass state driver adjustment factor" on any of these websites Also, the inlaw thing is a temporary thing until I can buy a new house. Thanks for most of the replies. good luck to all.

Later

 

[kman]

They offer alot more than the num nuts at NJ, you idiot, dimeASS

Hey Mr bo. How much do you pay for your crew food? going to break 50k 1st year pay on the 7n7. And I kept about 75-90 % of my per diem without even trying. Do you guys pay for your health, vision, or dental? yeah im sure nj sucks compared to cs. What is ur pay after 10 years anyway?

 

[Humphreybogart]

Hey Mr bo. How much do you pay for your crew food? going to break 50k 1st year pay on the 7n7. And I kept about 75-90 % of my per diem without even trying. Do you guys pay for your health, vision, or dental? yeah im sure nj sucks compared to cs. What is ur pay after 10 years anyway?

If we chose to buy a crew meal, it will cost us $10. I've been here over 2 years and only had to resort to the crew meal twice. We are normally scheduled during the day with enough time to go out and get something to eat. Our first year people can also break $50k by working a day of overtime a month and by putting away some per diem. Yes, we pay for part of our healthcare, but CS pays for most of it. Keep in mind that we don't pay any union dues, so that is a wash. Our pay scale is a little foggy at year 10 because as I understand, our pay structure is going to be re-evaluated in about 5 years or so. If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask!
Have a GREAT day!!

 

[kman]

Just wondering Mr. H BO

why are you so negative about nja? All of the cs guys i have talked to have been really cool. Both companys lead the industry in pay, why do you bag on nja so much?

Have fun being an FO for 5 years.

Memorize this:, coffee, ice, and papers.

They offer alot more than the num nuts at NJ, you idiot, dimeASS

Of coures they'll call, they are desperate to find recruits that will be based out of where management says and who are willing to wait 5+ years for an upgrade. I would think that min qualifications would be a pulse.

50k w/out my per diem, so i dont think that is a wash. How much of your per diem do you spend on the road? I gone several tours without spending a dime. Although now I tend to buy myself at least two nice hot dinners a week. One can only eat so much out of a box.

I c u guys only get 50% match up to 6% on ur 401k. That just makes nja 50% match to 15% seem like cr@p doesn't it. So lets work the math together. 6% of 91k is 5460 so cs will add 2730 so at nj 15% of 90k is 13500, nja will add 6750. I think my union dues are worth the extra 4k a year. I know cs pays so much more than nj, what do you do with all that extra money. I see 5th ca at base sal @ cs is 91k @ nja its 90k. What do you do with the extra 83 dollars per month? How is your vacation at year 10? Do you get min of 12 weeks off? You can take your extra base pay, I'll take a longer vacation anyday.

Its not perfect or close to it at nja, but I get two weekends off every month and have every holiday off except new years and will have 3 weeks off for vacation, its my first year and I never been at home so much. So I can't complain too much.

I sure its a great over at cs, but how do u really know what is it like at nj?

Its seems to me the pay is very close. If anything if u factor base+401k+per diem+vacation-union dues. NJA is ahead.

Hope you have a great day as well.

 

[Humphreybogart]

Just wondering Mr. H BO

why are you so negative about nja? All of the cs guys i have talked to have been really cool. Both companys lead the industry in pay, why do you bag on nja so much?

***Because it's a blast watching the NJ guys getting their panties in a bind...it's all in fun.




50k w/out my per diem, so i dont think that is a wash. How much of your per diem do you spend on the road? I gone several tours without spending a dime. Although now I tend to buy myself at least two nice hot dinners a week. One can only eat so much out of a box.

***If you want to live on crew meals for the entire week, that's up to you. It's just not my bag, baby, yea.

I c u guys only get 50% match up to 6% on ur 401k. That just makes nja 50% match to 15% seem like cr@p doesn't it. So lets work the math together. 6% of 91k is 5460 so cs will add 2730 so at nj 15% of 90k is 13500, nja will add 6750. I think my union dues are worth the extra 4k a year. I know cs pays so much more than nj, what do you do with all that extra money. I see 5th ca at base sal @ cs is 91k @ nja its 90k. What do you do with the extra 83 dollars per month? How is your vacation at year 10? Do you get min of 12 weeks off? You can take your extra base pay, I'll take a longer vacation anyday.

***Our 401K is being reworked as we speak, watch for a update. Remember, we are alot younger of a company that NJ. We are learning alot from your mistakes.

Its not perfect or close to it at nja, but I get two weekends off every month and have every holiday off except new years and will have 3 weeks off for vacation, its my first year and I never been at home so much. So I can't complain too much.

***So do we.

I sure its a great over at cs, but how do u really know what is it like at nj?

***I have several friends there that tell me.

Its seems to me the pay is very close. If anything if u factor base+401k+per diem+vacation-union dues. NJA is ahead.

***Good for you that you feel that way, this way you won't have to second guess the decision you made to work at NJ.

Hope you have a great day as well.

***Thank You.

 

[dime line]

Kman......The HbO man still thinks that his merrit got him the raise. After all he is gods gift to aviation. We all can learn from HbO man.

Oh and hava great day

 

[Dr Pokenhiemer]

Why such a big riff between NJ and CS? Sounds like the military--the best unit you were a part of is the one you are with now, and the worst one was the one you just left? People that work for Coke can't even think about drinking Pepsi? Is it that sort of thing?

 

[Cavpilot]

Why such a big riff between NJ and CS? Sounds like the military--the best unit you were a part of is the one you are with now, and the worst one was the one you just left? People that work for Coke can't even think about drinking Pepsi? Is it that sort of thing?

Actually there isn't. Pretty much every CS guy that I've met on the road has been very cool. I have friends and acquaintances at CS, I've done recurrent with CS guys as well. On more that one occasion I've gone out for drinks and dinner with CS crews. What you see on this board is basically one person that goes out of their way to stir the pot. The truth is that the vast majority of CS and QS pilots get along just fine.

 

[Humphreybogart]

Actually there isn't. Pretty much every CS guy that I've met on the road has been very cool. I have friends and acquaintances at CS, I've done recurrent with CS guys as well. On more that one occasion I've gone out for drinks and dinner with CS crews. What you see on this board is basically one person that goes out of their way to stir the pot. The truth is that the vast majority of CS and QS pilots get along just fine.

Cav, you are correct. People need to lighten up. It's all in fun!

 

[landlover]

How does one go on the raod for even a day let alone 2 weeks and not spend a dime of per diem? Did you not eat anything other than the breakfast at the hotel? Or does NJA/CS provide food and per diem?

 

[Diesel]

NJA provides food and perdiem

99.99999 percent of the time i skip breakfast at the hotel and have nj order the bfast for me. I rather sleep than eat. Thats just me.

I probably spend my perdiem once or twice on the road a week. I like to go out too I'm just too full by the time i get to the hotel.

 

[blueridge71]

hope you're over 40 years old with over 4000 hours
unless you're a woman
otherwise, no job for you !!!!!!!!!!!!

I just got done with indoc and less than half the class met those criteria. They really hire a mix of ages and experience levels.

Wow you mean CS is so great that they pay you just enough to move in with your inlaws. Nice

Think about it. If he is going to be on the road for half the time, why pay for place that you'll only see every other week unless you really need it? It is a good way to save money. I'd consider it, but my wife wasn't crazy about the idea.

 

[RideandDrive]

Actually Netjets 401k is 50% match up to the government limit for the year. This can be quite substantial.