Crew Bags on CRJ200

[BenderGonzales]

I remember, years ago, chasing customers down in the terminal after they "accidentally" took my bag out of the coat-closet on the Jetstream.

<shrug> Same story. Different airplane. It's unfortunate, but its part of being a commuter pilot.

Scooter-trash just wasn't designed with crew needs at heart. (The CRJ's bag-closet before they got the security door was woefully inadequate when everyone started dragging around Hum-Vee sized "pretty neat stuff" bags.)

Solution? Premanently mounted crew-bag "cage" in aft cargo. Just big enough to isolate crew-bags from pax bags and offer a visual barrier to ground-crew. Issue memo to rampers, "though shalt not enter here under penalty of death".

 

[Phony Marconi]

There's not a lot of things worse than getting to your overnight and not having a bag to take to the hotel.

Sooner or later it will happen.

When it does, the pilot shall refuse further duty until his personal effects are available for grooming/ dressing....a vital part of this profession.

End of story.

 

[180ToTheMarker]

What? Are you afraid the rampies are going to lose the cheap Gateway laptop your mammie gave ya? Thanks for giving me another reason to not ride on a regional airline...if your luggage is too good to ride with rest, my money is too good to provide you a job. Thanks for playing!

Oh do I wish you knew who Hoser was. I could introduce you. Of course that computer his "mammie" gave him might find its way up your arse! Go back to the playground kid.

 

[av8er2]

I have been putting mine in the overhead and my bag has never been lost or damaged.

If I started putting it in the back you know what is going to happen! There are tons of stories out there of lost and damaged bags from being put in the cargo comp.

Now that the PAX are not putting their bags in the overheads there is plenty of room for the crews. Your right mgt. will do anything to make the pilots and FA's jobs more difficult, now they have to spend time every flight making sure their bags are ok and still with the plane.

What a JOKE, there has to be a way to let the bags stay in the plane where the crews can keep an eye on them. Last three bins is a good idea.

I hope ASA mgt is paying attention to this post because I would guess this is how the who pilot and FA group feels.

Quit always doing something to PO the pilots and FA's. Treat the group a little better and maybe ASA will go somewhere.

 

[CRJ puppy]

As was stated before, be careful. The FAA and the TSA in their infinite wisdom have determined that crew bags in the overhead bins are a security risk since the passengers can access the contents (maybe steal your "pilot" underwear?!). Anyway, this is the reason for the yellow bags and bags in the back...not a "plot" by management. So no matter where your bag goes, "user beware"!

 

[ClearRight]

Funny, we've never heard the TSA security slant on having the crew bags in the overheads. With revised crew and pax weights last spring our company came out with a memo stating crew bags were no longer included in the crew weight. As long as we have a passenger check an oversized bag planeside, our bag is good in the cabin- crew bags are then considered part of the pax weight. Weird, huh?

 

[79%N1]

As was stated before, be careful. The FAA and the TSA in their infinite wisdom have determined that crew bags in the overhead bins are a security risk since the passengers can access the contents (maybe steal your "pilot" underwear?!). Anyway, this is the reason for the yellow bags and bags in the back...not a "plot" by management. So no matter where your bag goes, "user beware"!

ASA management.....I'm not buying that it is the FAA/TSA saying bags cant go into the cabin, because I'm hearing all these other airlines are allowed. Is it just a rule for ASA? I dont think so! Seems like just another way to mess with us.


And PS. Who is this ASA fed that waits at the steps to check on this? Seems like a true A-hole! Dont these guys have anything more important to do than hand out BS violations to hard working crew members who are just trying to do a job and go the heck home???? This profession is truely starting to PISS ME OFF!!!!

 

[EDUC8-or]

As was stated before, be careful. The FAA and the TSA in their infinite wisdom have determined that crew bags in the overhead bins are a security risk since the passengers can access the contents (maybe steal your "pilot" underwear?!). Anyway, this is the reason for the yellow bags and bags in the back...not a "plot" by management. So no matter where your bag goes, "user beware"!

So they can access a bag that they have screened through security? They can also access their bags that fit in the overhead. And what about on a bigger airplane where you can carry on your rollaboard? You could access a whole lot of bags in that situation.

I hope I don't see a passenger trying to cause a commotion with my Colgate and Head N Shoulders.

 

[AchilleLauro]

This is just another example of ASA management shredding our QOL. Last night I was on an overnight at the bar in my uniform because the rampers lost my luggage. STRIKE NOW

Actually, this is just another example of an ASA pilot making idiotic accusations.

 

[d328pilot]

Its not a TSA/FAA security deal. As of last month at PSA, crew bags are required to go in the overheads above row 10 and 11.

 

[BenderGonzales]

Leave it to USAir to do yet something else to piss off the paying passengers. Now the folks back in 10 and 11 don't even have access to their overheads.

 

[embryflyboy]

Every one is yelling fuel cost. what would happen if we were to say until you fix this stupid stuff (pay, bags, and jerking us around) we start burning fuel like it is going out of style. I know that 310 vs 290 results in about 600lbs/hr for a min or two savings in time, if they continue to say pay cut, qol cut and we just say ok. well lets say ok you cut my pay by 2 bucks I’ll raise your operating cost by 200 to 300 per hour we all complain about our wages but what if we got the point to there is now way that they can save enough in our salary to make up for the fuel we can burn (fill in blanks in where you can raise cost with out messing up pax.) this way we don’t have to wait for alpa to grow thee gonads to strike.

 

[BenderGonzales]

...and then the Embry Rediculous graduate (who obviously skipped his economics class) proposed a plan to kill the goose that laid the golden eggs.

Wow.

 

[scarlet]

The FAA really cares where we put our bags!!! But ASA thinks we are that dumb, and we don't know anyone from the FAA....we know other people in the industry dumbas@@@!!!!

They tell us the FAA came to ASA saying your bags are not in the right place--GIVe ME a BREAK!!!!

 

[OCP]

Ok ASA guys/gals. I HATE this "bag program" too. This is one of the most stupid things to come around. We can't have our overnight bags in a place where they won't get taken, things stolen out of them, damaged, lost, etc? Who do we talk too about this? Where is the union?
With what seems like EVERY other crj operator out there putting bags in thier overheads, maybe its ok on our airplanes too. Being violated because you don't want your stuff ruined or misplaced is unreal.
Think of this. They say that the weight of the bags is included in the airplanes with the modified doors. So by that saying the bags should be fine in the overhead.
Also in line with this... Why didn't they just include the weights in the BOW for all the airlplanes like they have forever in the past?
What can we do beside b!tch about it?

 

[blueridge71]

Hows that going to stop them from being damaged?? i.e. at the bottom of the pile?

Well, obviously you don't want to put your laptop there, but I've used my current bag for several years and have put it in the cargo bay for most of that time where it has mostly been on the bottom. It only has some minor cosmetic damage.

And I don't have a top of the line $300 bag either. I got this bag from ebags.com. I paid $80 for it three years ago with the ALPA discount, and I've been pretty happy with it. In fact, I think that it is better than most of the expensive bags that I've seen.

http://www.ebags.com/ebags/professional_22_upright/product_detail/index.cfm?ModelID=8889

I have heard of passengers finding crew bags in the cabin and going through the contents or simply stealing them. I prefer to keep my bag in the baggage compartment. Admittedly, it did get left in MEM once when the rampers ignored the crew tags and unloaded it, but that is once in almost four years. Even then, they forwarded it and I had it by the end of the day. Of course, that is why now I always check to make sure it is still there.

 

[bailout]

>but that is once in almost four years. <<

You have been VERY lucky. Its happened to somebody in my crew at least 6-7 times this year alone.

 

[rgd]

I am in RGT right now, and today we talked about this. You will get violated by the FAA if they catch your bag in the 50 seater that does not have the modified door. It is because of our new bag weight (valet and checked) rules. The reason we were told was because the bag in the overhead bin is not included in the BOW of the aircraft. If you are on the 40 seater or the 50 with the mod closet door you can put your bag in the closet, if not you can get busted by our overzealous FAA friends. This was straight from two different IP's at recurrent. One IP even reported that the FAA is watching for us to pull our bags off the plane, then see if we secure the door before we leave to bust us on two things instead of just one. They also said be looking for a mandatory read on FLICA and an alert in the near future about it. Take it for what it's worth.

 

[bailout]

Someone mentioned one way around this.. If youre bag is small enough it can be in the overheads as a 'personal item'. Thats the FAA itselfs rule!

or what about adding the bag to the weight in the load manifest? That should work also, because then its counted!

 

[spike]

Have it your way

company policy: outside
my policy: always inside no matter what.

It is always easier to deal with saying sorry, than chasing a bag you'll never find again. if my bag disappears, i'm going home sick.