Crew Bags on CRJ200

[letthebigdogeat]

What are they gonna do, fire me???? Go ahead!

Write me up, fine me, do what you want. I have too many other fukin things to worry about than where I'm going to put my bag. And it's definitely NOT going back with the cargo. I learned that lesson a long time ago. And what the heLL is up with the lines next month. Take a deep breath, breathe.....breathe........

 

[av8er2]

Duhhh!

Doesn't the FAA have anything better to do, like working on our old rest rules and some the long exhausting unsafe days we work.

Hey how about working on the mgt. that is making the whole pilot group so mad. Being upset with mgt all the time is affecting safety because all the of BS the pilots have to think about and it makes it hard to focus on our jobs.

How can you expect a unhappy pilot to be a 100% safe pilot.

It is amazing some of the things they focus on.

Did they not look a the weight and balance wheel, we can add the bag weights in the section the bags are in!!!!!!!!!!!

How hard would this be to solve the problem.

Done everyone gets what they want.

 

[atrdriver]

company policy: outside
my policy: always inside no matter what.

It is always easier to deal with saying sorry, than chasing a bag you'll never find again. if my bag disappears, i'm going home sick.

Maybe so, but I'm not willing to get violated for where my bag is. I have a lot more things to worry about. I will put mine in the back on the a/c without the modified closets, and just check every leg that it gets put back in the cargo compartment.

And yes, I think that the feds SHOULD have better things to do than try to violate us for little unimportant things like this, but apparantly our new fed doesn't agree. Until he makes enough people mad and gets kicked out of his current post, he is the one we have to deal with. He's the classic fed on a power trip trying to rip pilots.

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

Exactly what would the 'violation' say?

 

[Phony Marconi]

It happened about a year ago.

Pouring rain, the rampers in ATL left my bag sitting out, marinating in the yellow bag full of water. I was unaware.

Arrive at the overnight with a water-logged bag....must've weighed 60 pounds, I couldn't even hitch my flight kit on....wheels wouldn't turn under the weight.

Spent my 12 hr layover drying/cleaning my clothes. My shirt smelled like toothpaste the next day, and my sneakers reeked like the Atlanta zoo.

Like an asswhole, I wasted my entire layover fixing what management neglected.....just like we pilots always do.

What do we do when this happens again?

 

[Puck Mugger]

Actually, this is just another example of an ASA pilot making idiotic accusations.

This from a guy with Captain Stabbin as his avatar.

 

[atrdriver]

Exactly what would the 'violation' say?

"Failure to comply with FAA approved company policy", which is just as regulatory as the FAR's. Or something to that effect.

 

[wms]

The feds in ATL...

 

[AchilleLauro]

This from a guy with Captain Stabbin as his avatar.

Meow! What a bunch of pus$ies! You guys should hear yourselves! It's like I work with a bunch of f@gs! No wonder mgmt works us over so hard, they get such good results from all the conspiracy theorists (mgmt must be getting the FAA to enforce the bag rule, the FAA should be on our side blah blah blah). Grow some fellas! Quit making the rest of us look like idiots.

 

[av8er2]

Why make our job harder???

 

[RegionalERPuke]

Get off it the riddle rat is correct.

...and then the Embry Rediculous graduate (who obviously skipped his economics class) proposed a plan to kill the goose that laid the golden eggs.

Wow.

 

[7KCAB]

This kills me - possible FAA violations over crew bags in the overhead because they are included in the BOW when there are absolutely no provisions for the 300 pound captain/FO who is obviously WAY over the allowance for crew weight in the BOW.
Gotta love it.

 

[sweptback]

This kills me - possible FAA violations over crew bags in the overhead because they are included in the BOW when there are absolutely no provisions for the 300 pound captain/FO who is obviously WAY over the allowance for crew weight in the BOW.
Gotta love it.

That's the problem though, at ASA the geniuses who redid the W&B program took the crew bag weight out of the BOW. They claimed that it allowed the passenger weights to decrease, although the crew weights went up by 10 lbs. So it's probably the 300 lb pilot who's throwing the wrench into everything.

 

[Gobi Gred]

This issue came up at my airline as well. We were given the impression that our bags had to go in back. There was no way I was going to put my bag in back and have it destroyed or lost. I concluded that since a passenger is allowed a carry on in the cabin that weighs zero, I could substitute my bag for one of theirs that is left at the cart to placed in back. The weight would be the same if the situation was reversed. (the pax bag in the overhead and mine in the back and counted as 30 lbs.) Since there are almost always at least 3 pax carry ons that go in back, all three crewmembers can stow their bags in the cabin. Later this was approved by our company. I haven't heard of anyone at our company having any problems with the Feds doing this.

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

AHHH Yes, Grasshoppa, but this is ASA, Atlantic Satanic Airlines.

 

["GO AROUND"]

It's ASA, Another Skywest Airline.

His name is Kosta and he has ruined two IP's careers already for no reason.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but there is nothing in the SP's that says your bag has to go in the cargo. The SP that refers to ac loading just says that it's not included in the BOW any more. So add it in yourself and spin it in the W&B. You can't get around company policy about the overhead bins but heard a CP say that there is nothing wrong with keeping it in the Cockpit say behind your seat.

 

[Lolikoka]

Lost 4 months

One day the plane was full, so I decided to make room for the passengers and put my bag in the cargo compartment. I didn't see it again until 4 months later. I called the station in Augusta where it disappeared, but they wouldn't even return my call. I submitted a RIF seeking the company's help in locating my bag, but they ignored my request for a response. 4 months later my bag turned up in Atlanta. I'm no brain surgeon, but I learned my lesson, and my bag stays with me now.

 

[NoPlaneNoGain]

I don't have the SP's with me now so I do not remember the section (maybe SP400), but I looked it up the other day and it does say that "Crew bags must go in the cargo."

Oh, and for those who cannot find the yellow bags in the back to put your bag in, it is because ASA cancelled the yellow bag program some time ago. A$$holes!

I agree with everyone else, something has to be done to protect are bags and underwear from being damaged or lost.

 

[atrdriver]

It's ASA, Another Skywest Airline.

His name is Kosta and he has ruined two IP's careers already for no reason.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but there is nothing in the SP's that says your bag has to go in the cargo. The SP that refers to ac loading just says that it's not included in the BOW any more. So add it in yourself and spin it in the W&B. You can't get around company policy about the overhead bins but heard a CP say that there is nothing wrong with keeping it in the Cockpit say behind your seat.

It's not in the SP's, it's in section 2 of the FA manual.

 

["GO AROUND"]

Just paint your bag yellow and write, "This is a Crew Bag DumbA$$!" on it. That should solve the problem.

I'm gonna have to go with behind my seat in the Cockpit.