Compass new bases after Delta NW Merge?

[Quack]

Again I will state- " I am not making fun of or calling my coworkers bad people." This is all about Compost management. Calling this place compost is calling it like it really is. This company not pilots are compost. AGAIN NOT THE PILOTS. As others have stated when you take the big ERJ and fly it on mainline routes you should be paid like a mainline pilot. Quack I don't need to finish training to have the right "spout" my mouth off. It was my right to complain and want change since my hire date. I guess you don't complain because you are happy flying the big erj for crappy wages and an even worse contract? Come on when will you all realize when people post on FI it isn't always about making fun of each other? It is all about telling the truth, and the truth is undeniable; COMPOST(the company, not the pilots) is horrible. It is no where near where the leading commuter airlines are. If you can't see that then you are disillusioned. I will continue to complain and I am sorry that offends you. Can't wait to fly with you maybe we can see eye to eye one day.

Listen i am not saying that this place is perfect by any means. you don't need to tell me whats wrong with the operations and problems we have. I've experienced them! If you thought the grass would be greener on the other side, you're quickly finding out that compass is no different than most regionals out there. crappy contract, mainline planes flown at turboprop rates, bad work rules, little vacation, captains flying more in the right seat than left, horrible management, and the list goes on. but name one regional that people are happy to be at right now. they ALL have their problems. i will never ever say that compass is "the" place to be, but you should've known that before coming here. I am not disagreeing with you, but calling it the worst regional out there is a bit much. you got your type, if it is that bad, go sit somewhere else. maybe you could be one of the furloughed comair guys, or a CA displacement at EXJet, waiting for a 8yr upgrade at QX, or wishing for a contract at PNCL. Believe me, i've been there, this is the 3rd regional for me and i'm convinced they're all the same in their own way.

 

[skipro101]

What are the training issues?

 

[BOHICAgain]

What are the training issues?

Training is outsource to CAE. Since they are not Compass they have instructors that are not standardized since they instruct many airlines.
Since it is in YUL it is harder to get guys up there to instructor so the schedules are always in the air. It should take no more than 2 1/2 to 3 weeks to do everything up there. I was there 35+ days last year and heard that things are the same.

Sioux- agree that this company lacks leadership. Also that Compass management acts like a used car sales men and the amount of grievances has increased tremendously over the past few months because line guys are just fed up with the lack of knowledge by Chantilly on the contract.

So yes we know Compass is not great but we are trying to help improve that and look forward to working with you when you get on the line.

 

[luvz2fli]

Everybody keeps talking about making changes and what not. How do we make changes to a contract that isn't amendable until 2013. I mean you can make suggestions on how to make small things change but at the same time, what significant ones can we do?

As for our contract, I have heard that they took all the contracts and basically took an average of them to make Compass's. It's weird as I know some people are excited as they leave behind worse contracts and for others, this is a step down really. Of course, if you came from a mainline, this will definitely be a drastic step down I would hope. Hope as in you were paid better at a mainline job.

If you truly plan on making changes, great, but I've been around too many people who just want to complain and never do anything about it. Oh well.

 

[DrewBlows]

Everybody keeps talking about making changes and what not. How do we make changes to a contract that isn't amendable until 2013. I mean you can make suggestions on how to make small things change but at the same time, what significant ones can we do?

Ding, ding, ding!!! We have a winner!! People can whine and moan all they want but it's not going to change the contract we have. All we can do is make sure the contract we have now is enforced. In my experience Compass isn't willfully disregarding the contract, however there is a level of ignorance of the contract within the scheduling department. The best thing the average line pilot can do is know the contract.

As an aside, I haven't seen a whole lot of whining on line. There are always a few who will never be happy, but as a group Compass pilots seem to be very pragmatic and easy going.

 

[BlueRidger]

Hey Sioux,
Be careful with the word Compost. It what the mainline guys will call YOU not our management.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

I have JS some on Compass. It seems like ALL the pilots I've met are pretty happy/content.

This makes sense, because Compass is new, so no one is "stuck" there like some other airlines where people went there for "X", and now it has changed to a sh!tty "z". If someone didn't like the way Compass is, they didn't apply or take the job.

I tried to get an interview for street capt, and then didn't interview for FO last year.

I hope for all the best to Compass employees.

cliff
YIP

 

[SiouxHockeyFan]

Hey Sioux,
Be careful with the word Compost. It what the mainline guys will call YOU not our management.

I got the term compost from my mainline nwa buddy. I ams sure when I j/s home I will get my fair share of warranted abuse.

 

[mynameisjim]

I got the term compost from my mainline nwa buddy. I ams sure when I j/s home I will get my fair share of warranted abuse.

If mainline guys look down on Compass, it's their fault. They gave away the 76 seaters and their MEC negotiated the contract that Compass operates under.

 

[SpauldingSmails]

Apparently, Bendo has resigned, check out Compass points. Anyone know what this is about? Took me off guard.

New president is to be Tim Campbell, former NWA VP of Regional Airline Ops. :erm:

 

[SpauldingSmails]

I got the term compost from my mainline nwa buddy. I ams sure when I j/s home I will get my fair share of warranted abuse.

Well you might find that to be a mixed bag. Some guys have been very friendly, others just very short with me, but never completely rude.

I've heard from some Compass guys that the NWA captains signing their form didn't even know who compass was.

 

[DrewBlows]

Well you might find that to be a mixed bag. Some guys have been very friendly, others just very short with me, but never completely rude.

I've heard from some Compass guys that the NWA captains signing their form didn't even know who compass was.

I've talked to wide-body Captains who didn't know a whole lot about Compass. I think narrow-body guys tend to know a little more. Some guys are more in tune with what goes on at work than others. No big deal.

 

[liv'n_on_credit]

Probably because they are/were about the only ones hiring at the time. Plus I believe many have gone to Compass based on its potential. Which I believe it has a bunch (based on what Delta will do it could also be sold down the road).

I think Sioux might just feel the sting of being furloughed by his mainline carrier. Plus the fact that his last regional airline had better pay and work rules then Compass does.

Don't jump all over him, many people try and progress there careers and when all the sudden you see it regress it can be a bit frustrating. I think many of us would have this attitude if this happened to us. This career we all have chosen is a big rollercoaster ride and we can only hope the low parts don't last long.

Good Luck to everyone that has chosen this career.

Ummm...are you and Sioux sleeping together?

 

[liv'n_on_credit]

The "regional standard" here at COMPOST is horrible. No trip or duty rigs, min day is way too low, only one day room for the entire crew, but no if there is a crew room, company doesn't pay for the doctor if they make you go when you call in sick, 75 pay for second sick call, 50 pay for third sick call, etc. Who the heck thought it was a good idea to allow the company to make captains fly as copilots?? This is a safety issue that no credible pilot group/union should allow. It also keeps staffing levels lower. This is the type of stuff you see at Mesa. Previous regionals I have flown for had much better contracts. It is just sad to see such weak pay and work rules negotiated outside of bankruptcy or financial burden. How can we all be happy with this disgusting way of life we have created? It is embarassing to tell a captain while jumpseating I work for Compass. Usually followed by how much are you guys making to fly that thing? Maybe one day pilots will figure out how to make money instead of giving it all to the company.

You do realize how much of a moron you look like complaining about a contract you had full access to BEFORE you took the job...don't you?

 

[SiouxHockeyFan]

You do realize how much of a moron you look like complaining about a contract you had full access to BEFORE you took the job...don't you?

Where was I going to get access to the contract from? Even if there was a way why shouldn't I take the job to pay my bills and then try to fix the problem when I am here. So.........since you aren't complaining you are happy with the contract? Thats crazy! Why don't guys complain more? Why is everyone upset at me complaining? It is sad to see pilots jump on pilots versus complaining about how crappy a company is. So much for solidarity amongst pilots.