Compass new bases after Delta NW Merge?

[koepp]

Along those same lines....how does Mesaba's award of 15 new CRJ900s effect the 18 options remained between Mesaba and Compass?

Those "18 options" the company is still talking about were only relevant under the NWA CBA. It would have brought the number of 51 to 76 seat jets up to the NWA cap of 90. The DAL contract has a different cap that has already been reached for 71 to 76 airplanes (120).

 

[DashTrash400]

You won't find any Delta Pilots willing to fly those Planes for those rates....... Period

Correct. The new DL contract actually has a 76 seat rate in it, IIRC first year pay is close to $90 for CA and around $49 for FOs. Significantly more than the rates NALPA negotiated for CPS (yes, that would be the 5-year contract no CPS pilot got to vote on).

That, plus keeping the longevity down, are the two reasons I think DL would fight any attempt to staple us to mainline tooth & nail.

 

[WSurf]

Stapling would cause tons of headaches. I would think something more in the line of Pref. Hiring to the Compass folks. Which wouldn't be such a bad deal since Delta is planning a big hiring boom over the next couple of years.

 

[luvz2fli]

Stapling would cause tons of headaches. I would think something more in the line of Pref. Hiring to the Compass folks. Which wouldn't be such a bad deal since Delta is planning a big hiring boom over the next couple of years.

Why have pref hiring with the flow through in place? Or are you saying they'd get rid of it?

 

[BlueRidger]

CURRENT Compass guy in charge OR those that formed it, was the same as MDA. UH OH!!!

Enough?

Except that your wrong.
It was former Independence Air people who put together Compass. All but the President who was Northwest.

 

[wmuflyguy]

What is hiring like at Compass right now? Is it slow or called off all together?

They had a job posting on the website for FO's this week

 

[Speedtape]

NWA pilots will be flowed down into Compass and everyone will be flushed.

 

[koepp]

Don't you mean Delta pilots? There's no such thing as a Northwest pilot, only former NWA pilots

 

[Speedtape]

Don't you mean Delta pilots? There's no such thing as a Northwest pilot, only former NWA pilots

Pre-merger Delta pilots are protected by a no-furlough clause. Pre-meger NWA pilots have a flow down clause. Does that help?

 

[koepp]

Pre-merger Delta pilots are protected by a no-furlough clause. Pre-meger NWA pilots have a flow down clause. Does that help?

Both pilot groups are covered under the JPWA. There is no difference whether they cam from NWA or Delta. Once the seniority list is combined I guess we will see which company has more on the bottom. Both former NWA and Delta pilots are "protected" under the no furlough clause; they are also both able to flow down into CP/XJ.

 

[lowlycfi]

What is hiring like at Compass right now? Is it slow or called off all together?

They had a job posting on the website for FO's this week

No more classes for now. They have stopped at 320 pilots instead of the original planned 360. I believe we are still interviewing for a pool for when/if we hire again. I think everyone is holding their collective breath waiting to see what Mother Delta will do with us.

 

[JvW]

What about SDF; 3 airplanes are overnighting there every day and the big MX hangar which is currently being build on the western side.

JvW

 

[SiouxHockeyFan]

No more classes for now. They have stopped at 320 pilots instead of the original planned 360. I believe we are still interviewing for a pool for when/if we hire again. I think everyone is holding their collective breath waiting to see what Mother Delta will do with us.

Training folks in montreal told us new hires last night they plan on the 360 still, but they don't want to pay pilots to sit around while training is backed up. We are planning on weeks off during the next couple months. Also, unless you are furloughed and NEED money don't come to Compass. Don't leave a "good" regional to come here. This place is a joke!!Unorganized, horrible contract, horrible pay, horrible contract, etc.

 

[MJ42]

Pre-merger Delta pilots are protected by a no-furlough clause. Pre-meger NWA pilots have a flow down clause. Does that help?Wow, an ASA pilot who thinks he knows what is going on at the new DAL...Let the guys who actually work at DAL worry about OUR(not your) airline.

Only up to TB Kane. There won't be any flow down, but in the unlikely event there is... since the SLI will be a middle ground of both proposals it would most likely be the spring and summer 08 "RD" pilots to move in reverse.

BTW, all new DAL pilots are protected by a (mostly worthless) no furlough clause under the new JPWA, but it only pertains to merger related furloughs(IOW we could be furloughed for other reasons, i.e. economy issues...).

 

[DrewBlows]

Training folks in montreal told us new hires last night they plan on the 360 still, but they don't want to pay pilots to sit around while training is backed up. We are planning on weeks off during the next couple months. Also, unless you are furloughed and NEED money don't come to Compass. Don't leave a "good" regional to come here. This place is a joke!!Unorganized, horrible contract, horrible pay, horrible contract, etc.

Training is a joke but it gets better once you are on line. Scheduling is good and management does what they say they are going to do. The contract and pay are pretty much regional standard, and the pilots are a good bunch to fly with.

It's unfortunate training is so terrible because it leaves a bad first impression. Just keep in mind training is a very small part of your time in the long run.

PS: the info you are getting about staffing from training people is false. Per the most recent Chief Pilot update (10/31) I have received, hiring has stopped at "about 320 line pilots".